id: 186 name: Lamia - Raw Development Logs 3 author: kevkev date: 21st January 2021 text len: 478267 views: 127 COPY PASTE OF LOGS PERTAINING TO LAMIA FROM FANKASIA, FROM THE WORLDBUILDING CHANNEL ONE OF THREE (ALMOST) COMPLETELY UNFORMATTED. UNRELATED SHIT MOSTLY PURGED OUT. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [01-Oct-20 10:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit generalized lamia lore time [01-Oct-20 10:30 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Ah yeah good shit [01-Oct-20 10:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wait [01-Oct-20 10:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >same structural differences Eh, wait [01-Oct-20 10:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Have you ever read the compendium before? [01-Oct-20 10:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Don't snakes shit out the very end of their tail? Do Lamia do that too? [01-Oct-20 10:31 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The Compendiwhomst [01-Oct-20 10:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 https://docs.google.com/document/d/14pEfV9z89e1B0HeP1pjaROw5_jiY_uoHr4kF4uNcPHc/edit {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/14pEfV9z89e1B0HeP1pjaROw5_jiY_uoHr4kF4uNcPHc/edit compendium of "lesser" races Harpys: In short, Harpys are lazy, crass, opportunistic, flying creatures which look somewhat like humans. Do not trust them to do anything remotely inspired or motivated, and lock your fridge. Biology: A Harpys appearance is a mixture of avian and humanoid biology. Harpys ... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bKQJLS4OhUVD0sSh_6bJz3LKTxstvvun1P15i0BHS_LN1lddiF6FXAvksN4iTB7DDAbnQx033Q=w1200-h630-p [01-Oct-20 10:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Basically everything that isn’t a dwarf or elf [01-Oct-20 10:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 whoa [01-Oct-20 10:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >in short: Snek [01-Oct-20 10:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 cute [01-Oct-20 10:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >plant folk Whoa, based [01-Oct-20 10:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I want to write a story with Dwarves and htey encounter underground mushroom men who are mostly kawaii [01-Oct-20 10:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and then something exciting happens [01-Oct-20 10:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and maybe they eat the mushroom men at one point. [01-Oct-20 10:34 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :excuseme: [01-Oct-20 10:34 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That would make for a funny one shot story in the thread [01-Oct-20 10:34 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >a merchant traveling through a new unexplored natural cave, one of many thousands [01-Oct-20 10:35 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >bringing a shipment of wine with him, hoping he'll come out somewhere else with people who will actually buy his wares [01-Oct-20 10:35 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >figures he'll prolly come out at XYZ Mountain Holme, or at least connect with a tunnel that connects with it [01-Oct-20 10:35 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Finds Mushroom Men, mostly-faceless mushroom creatures with short arms and legs [01-Oct-20 10:37 AM] TruFear#0540 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761280535187161108/1601573816467-1417203435.jpg [01-Oct-20 10:37 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Friendly, nice, unable to speak besides making noises >Bunch of cute stuff happens >Bad stuff happens >Lots and lots of fire >His cart full of wine barrels gets caught in an explosion, along with the mushroom men >The smell of it all.. >The smell of it all >||He ends up eating the mushroom men, accidentally mostly-cooked-well, sauteed in his wine.|| [01-Oct-20 10:37 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Based [01-Oct-20 10:37 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Incredibly decisively based [01-Oct-20 10:37 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Very very very based [01-Oct-20 10:37 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >sobbing as he adds pinches of salt and pepper [01-Oct-20 10:38 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/5537b661-c42d-4f78-8d74-1f68a0499828/dc6hm9k-154ba3cc-4ed8-4fd4-9cce-53f559f55a66.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNTUzN2I2NjEtYzQyZC00Zjc4LThkNzQtMWY2OGEwNDk5ODI4XC9kYzZobTlrLTE1NGJhM2NjLTRlZDgtNGZkNC05Y2NlLTUzZjU1OWY1NWE2Ni5qcGcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.feHVbBLLyool25FgbEL6PKJvngDgIAnwyleG9bgWyrg {Embed} https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/5537b661-c42d-4f78-8d74-1f68a0499828/dc6hm9k-154ba3cc-4ed8-4fd4-9cce-53f559f55a66.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNTUzN2I2NjEtYzQyZC00Zjc4LThkNzQtMWY2OGEwNDk5ODI4XC9kYzZobTlrLTE1NGJhM2NjLTRlZDgtNGZkNC05Y2NlLTUzZjU1OWY1NWE2Ni5qcGcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.feHVbBLLyool25FgbEL6PKJvngDgIAnwyleG9bgWyrg https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/5537b661-c42d-4f78-8d74-1f68a0499828/dc6hm9k-154ba3cc-4ed8-4fd4-9cce-53f559f55a66.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNTUzN2I2NjEtYzQyZC00Zjc4LThkNzQtMWY2OGEwNDk5ODI4XC9kYzZobTlrLTE1NGJhM2NjLTRlZDgtNGZkNC05Y2NlLTUzZjU1OWY1NWE2Ni5qcGcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.feHVbBLLyool25FgbEL6PKJvngDgIAnwyleG9bgWyrg [01-Oct-20 10:38 AM] mothman#1742 >punch takes all of your health [01-Oct-20 10:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Please write this as a one shot for the next thread [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia lore [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamiwho [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 This is a Mushroom Men server, retard [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Cultures, behaviors, etc [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Wargun, ban this dissenter [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 We can always VC about it later [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Na na, Lamia's [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] TruFear#0540 lamia l||wh||ore {Reactions} itstime (3) [01-Oct-20 10:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia L||'orbs|| [01-Oct-20 10:40 AM] Wargunlock#0868 They will get this thick Ugly bastard cock God willing [01-Oct-20 10:40 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway. This is important for my autism. [01-Oct-20 10:40 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The Snussy is at the front, where it is on human fe*oids [01-Oct-20 10:40 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but [01-Oct-20 10:40 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 wheremst do they shit? Do snakes shit out the very end of their tails? [01-Oct-20 10:41 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If so, do they as well? You mentioned the snake parts are all/mostly biologically correct, or something to that effect anyway. [01-Oct-20 10:41 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 To be fair [01-Oct-20 10:41 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Nothing is set in stone yet [01-Oct-20 10:41 AM] mothman#1742 snakes irl have a cloaca, which is the pussy, the egghole, and the poophole [01-Oct-20 10:41 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And all of it is up for debate [01-Oct-20 10:41 AM] mothman#1742 lamias do not have that [01-Oct-20 10:41 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 We will not be adding cloaca because they are gross [01-Oct-20 10:42 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Lamias do not poop [01-Oct-20 10:42 AM] mothman#1742 on lamias the human genitals are where they would be normally, i assume the poophole is either behind them on their butt, or lower down on their tail [01-Oct-20 10:42 AM] mothman#1742 either way works [01-Oct-20 10:42 AM] Wargunlock#0868 If we can remove disgusting femoid stuff from our fantasy women in this setting we should do so [01-Oct-20 10:42 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Command decision, they just dont poop. [01-Oct-20 10:43 AM] mothman#1742 just pull a harry potter and have then magic the poop away after shitting in the hallway [01-Oct-20 10:43 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Revised Command decision the poop shoot is further down the tail [01-Oct-20 10:43 AM] mothman#1742 so no [01-Oct-20 10:43 AM] mothman#1742 ||anal ?|| [01-Oct-20 10:43 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 No Snanal [01-Oct-20 10:43 AM] TruFear#0540 based [01-Oct-20 10:44 AM] mothman#1742 ok [01-Oct-20 10:44 AM] mothman#1742 good [01-Oct-20 10:44 AM] mothman#1742 ||unless they get creative with the snek flexability|| [01-Oct-20 10:44 AM] Wargunlock#0868 No [01-Oct-20 10:44 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Poop shoot down the tail is good [01-Oct-20 10:44 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Thats sodomy [01-Oct-20 10:44 AM] mothman#1742 joking [01-Oct-20 10:44 AM] mothman#1742 i find it gross too [01-Oct-20 10:45 AM] mothman#1742 ||now burying your face in that ass wont result in pinkeye or an STD|| {Reactions} itstime (3) shock (2) [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Pussies [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] mothman#1742 snussies [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Real men keep all the gross genetic details because it makes more seanse [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 He’s right [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 There’s something that doesn’t make sense in fankasia [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Shut it all down! [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s over! [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Heheh [01-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Shit [01-Oct-20 10:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Wargunlock we are officially ending fankasia because something doesn’t make sense [01-Oct-20 10:48 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Are you impluing you don’t like shit dick [01-Oct-20 10:48 AM] mothman#1742 yes [01-Oct-20 10:48 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Cringe [01-Oct-20 10:48 AM] mothman#1742 thats exactly what i am implying [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Oh shit [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] plan (heya hooya gang)#3467 Damn [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] mothman#1742 i dont want poop on my dong [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] plan (heya hooya gang)#3467 She shit on my dick [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Take the poo poo pill [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 If snakes can do it so can you [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Stop trashing discussions [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] mothman#1742 also anal is unhealthy and causes many small problems that lead to major health issues [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Anyways [01-Oct-20 10:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Back to Lamia [01-Oct-20 10:50 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Yes [01-Oct-20 10:50 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Culturally [01-Oct-20 10:50 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 We don’t have a culture for them [01-Oct-20 10:50 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *yet* [01-Oct-20 10:51 AM] Wargunlock#0868 What would we base them off of? [01-Oct-20 10:51 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Didn't Granada write a lamia story? [01-Oct-20 10:51 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I know I said their language sounds like a fucked version of Vietnamese [01-Oct-20 10:51 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But [01-Oct-20 10:51 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Vietnamese “””””””””culture””””””” [01-Oct-20 10:51 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Isn’t an idea that many are too fond of [01-Oct-20 10:51 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Myself included [01-Oct-20 10:51 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And yes she did [01-Oct-20 10:52 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 What do you have against Vietnam [01-Oct-20 10:52 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 That’s cool [01-Oct-20 10:52 AM] Infinitevegetals#7795 They eat bugs and shit just like snakes [01-Oct-20 10:53 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Back. Let's see... >Lamia poop out of the end of their tail / way down their tail Based. [01-Oct-20 10:54 AM] plan (heya hooya gang)#3467 Lamas [01-Oct-20 10:54 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Cultural lamia stuff Language like Vietnamese is fun. [01-Oct-20 10:54 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @instant ramen Lamia lore [01-Oct-20 10:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Idunno, discounting communism, what is Vietnamese culture? They've got a rich history, unironically, of setting up punji spike pits against invaders. [01-Oct-20 10:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Specifically against Ramen-kun, that is to say. [01-Oct-20 10:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 When I think snakes, I think niggas who both wanna be left alone, [01-Oct-20 10:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and will ambush and bite the shit out of you, eventually killing you. [01-Oct-20 10:55 AM] TheSteelLegionnaire#8106 'nam snek? [01-Oct-20 10:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 You step on their shit, they kill you. [01-Oct-20 10:55 AM] TheSteelLegionnaire#8106 I like [01-Oct-20 10:55 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Thing is, Vietnamese culture is basically discount Chinese culture [01-Oct-20 10:56 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 These days, or historically? [01-Oct-20 10:56 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I like the Vietnamese I've met, not so much the chinks. [01-Oct-20 10:56 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Historically [01-Oct-20 10:57 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Unless [01-Oct-20 10:57 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 We do French colonial Vietnam or more modern Vietnam [01-Oct-20 10:57 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Whats the difference? [01-Oct-20 10:57 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like the idea of them wanting to be left alone [01-Oct-20 10:58 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Explains why you don’t see many of them [01-Oct-20 10:58 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >French Colonial Vietnam [01-Oct-20 10:59 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. Very don't tread on me tier, was my intent there partly [01-Oct-20 10:59 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Big ol fucking snake people wearing robes and a rice hat sounds funny [01-Oct-20 10:59 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Oh, you're invading? I will literally send my family to die to try to kill you. Fuck off." {Reactions} itstime (3) [01-Oct-20 10:59 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ahhh [01-Oct-20 10:59 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And robes [01-Oct-20 10:59 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because it can fit them easily [01-Oct-20 10:59 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 11:01 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >GI falls into a VC pitfall trap >||It's full of snake girls that man handle and kiss him|| >Has dreams for the rest of his life about it after he returns to the US >VA barely tries to help him, what little they do has no effect >Constantly waking up in the middle of the night, sweating, ||dealing with the results of his lamia-related wet dream|| {Reactions} Jerry (3) [01-Oct-20 11:01 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 War is h*ck [01-Oct-20 11:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’m thinking [01-Oct-20 11:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Since lamia are big [01-Oct-20 11:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It would be costly to make houses that are big enough for them [01-Oct-20 11:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Especially pre-konvergance [01-Oct-20 11:02 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They could live in shallow tunnels and caves [01-Oct-20 11:02 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also the whole Vietnamese tunnel aesthetic [01-Oct-20 11:02 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Where you go through the water trap to get into the real home [01-Oct-20 11:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe, though while being warm blooded, they do prefer to sun a lot, right? They prolly take several things into consideration when picking a spot to tunnel, not too much foliage but not too little, not too much moisture in the soil but not too little, ground that's not too hard but also not too soft, and ||if there are any nearby big, flat rocks in direct sunlight most of the year.|| [01-Oct-20 11:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 11:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Big flat rocks [01-Oct-20 11:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Big flat rocks right outside their tunnel exit. Imagine having to walk to your garage every time you turn the heater on. [01-Oct-20 11:04 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe the caves they prefer are geothermally warmed? [01-Oct-20 11:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 THey don't wanna walk a million miles [01-Oct-20 11:04 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The higher up you are in lamia society the better large flat rocks you get? [01-Oct-20 11:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe, though VC tunnels worked because the grund was very clay-y, and geothermal shit isn't normally associated with heavy clay areas. [01-Oct-20 11:04 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ahh, true [01-Oct-20 11:04 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [01-Oct-20 11:04 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Flat area right outside the entrance [01-Oct-20 11:05 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The more money they pay for them, maybe. Depends how tribalistic but one common thing is always big flat-ish sunning rocks, no matter the societal system. [01-Oct-20 11:05 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >space heaters are a hotly desired item in all lamia communities {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761287772618620988/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 11:05 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Communist Lamia get their individual flat sunning rocks replaced with an asphalt parking lot to be used any time it's not in active use by the military to store hand-me-downs of hand-me-down vehicles and trucks [01-Oct-20 11:07 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :bigsad: [01-Oct-20 11:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Big flat sunning rocks [01-Oct-20 11:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Granite would be the best for sunning on [01-Oct-20 11:09 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The snake part of their body is probably sorta-kinda tough, at least from walking aroud - or slithering around all the time. THe human part though, that section would certainly prefer the rock to be smooth, contoured if possible, and without much abrasive action. [01-Oct-20 11:09 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They'd also probably enjoy beaches quite a lot, but not generally prefer living near them for several reasons. [01-Oct-20 11:10 AM] plan (heya hooya gang)#3467 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761288922142998558/1601570566264.jpg [01-Oct-20 11:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sand heats up nicely [01-Oct-20 11:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The rock would have to be smooth [01-Oct-20 11:11 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Unless the robe they wore was thick enough [01-Oct-20 11:11 AM] plan (heya hooya gang)#3467 Black rocks are nice [01-Oct-20 11:11 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Then it wouldn’t bother them too much [01-Oct-20 11:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Polished granite maybe? [01-Oct-20 11:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Nice and smooth [01-Oct-20 11:18 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >wearing robes while sunning [01-Oct-20 11:19 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ought'a be holes ground into the rocks for the Lamia's value orbs [01-Oct-20 11:22 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, very no-step-on-snake. Probably very against big government [01-Oct-20 11:22 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 as opposed to Dwarves who, for example, may not give a shit as long as their specific clan is doing alright. [01-Oct-20 11:23 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe not ones for rules. [01-Oct-20 11:23 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a very individual based society? [01-Oct-20 11:23 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More family oriented? [01-Oct-20 11:23 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Very much a kill-the-invading-niggers thing, to fit with Vietnam. [01-Oct-20 11:23 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Go with snake GF to visit her family in Fantasy Vietnam >Tons and tons and tons of mopeds with wide whicker baskets for seats [01-Oct-20 11:24 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Visit her family home, it's literally a fucking hole in the ground >Get lost for 3 hours in the tunnels while looking for the shitter [01-Oct-20 11:24 AM] TheSteelLegionnaire#8106 Heh [01-Oct-20 11:25 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Imagine your snake GF has a normal nice American voice and cadence but she also speaks Snake-Vietnamese which has all that annoying gook tonal shit in it. [01-Oct-20 11:26 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Can we assume that typical natural lamia habitat is in more jungle bound areas? [01-Oct-20 11:27 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Of course there also could be desert lamias [01-Oct-20 11:27 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Jungle shit, for sure. Desert lamias like >rattlers [01-Oct-20 11:28 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How would the jungle snake culture differ from the desert snake culture [01-Oct-20 11:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, Garden Snake Lamia are probably looked at as weak milquetoast faggots. No good bite, no good venom, no good crushing abilities like boas or w/e. [01-Oct-20 11:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Garden snake lamias would be much smaller than regular lamia [01-Oct-20 11:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [01-Oct-20 11:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also I feel like Lamia in general would be big on naps after large meals. Culturally and biologically. {Reactions} itstime [01-Oct-20 11:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Desert lamia would have a similar culture to their regular cousins [01-Oct-20 11:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Still would like caves [01-Oct-20 11:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And sunning rocks [01-Oct-20 11:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But also bodies of water to stay cool [01-Oct-20 11:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And nice shady spots to nap [01-Oct-20 11:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ways to stay out of the sun [01-Oct-20 11:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They would like tunnels and caves to stay in so they can be out of the days heat [01-Oct-20 11:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe more active at dawn and dusk [01-Oct-20 11:32 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sleep or lounge during the day like most desert creatures do [01-Oct-20 11:32 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Also I feel like Lamia in general would be big on naps after large meals. Culturally and biologically. @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit oh hell yes [01-Oct-20 11:32 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe instead of eating several meals through the day, they only eat one huge meal a day? [01-Oct-20 11:33 AM] Punished Zingus#4552 ||that one huge meal being my cum|| [01-Oct-20 11:33 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [01-Oct-20 11:33 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Same, Orc-Slayer-kun. [01-Oct-20 11:33 AM] Punished Zingus#4552 :itstime: [01-Oct-20 11:34 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Roleplay with your snake wife by having her squeeze into a large glass enclosure for the duration of the day [01-Oct-20 11:34 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761294979817144321/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 11:34 AM] TheSteelLegionnaire#8106 Lmao [01-Oct-20 11:35 AM] Punished Zingus#4552 ||>have a thing where you "feed" her by putting a mouse costume on your cock like that one scene from jackass|| {Reactions} excuseme [01-Oct-20 11:35 AM] TheSteelLegionnaire#8106 Jesus fucking christ [01-Oct-20 11:35 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I think it would be like Italians, in a way. Or maybe that's the Spanish I'm thinking of actually, where uh [01-Oct-20 11:35 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They take a nap in the middle of the day, right after their big central meal. [01-Oct-20 11:36 AM] Punished Zingus#4552 :itstime: [01-Oct-20 11:36 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I know there are Italians who do that [01-Oct-20 11:36 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Wake up, do chores and tasks, eat a big ass lunch, nap for an hour or so, get up and do more work, then sleep. {Reactions} happyharpy [01-Oct-20 11:37 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Perfect [01-Oct-20 11:37 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 This reminds me of the time I showed my first girlfriend that guys could bounce their dicks up and down without using their hands or their hips. {Reactions} chad (2) itstime (2) [01-Oct-20 11:37 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 She was shocked [01-Oct-20 11:38 AM] Punished Zingus#4552 :kitty: [01-Oct-20 11:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Chad move [01-Oct-20 11:41 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So which is it, they're very family oriented, or very individualistic? Or, both? [01-Oct-20 11:41 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Individual families maybe [01-Oct-20 11:41 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or groups [01-Oct-20 11:41 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So once or twice a year your snake wife's family will come over and suddenly it's like you're in a fucking Vietnamese market complete with strange food smells and constant tonal-language yelling [01-Oct-20 11:42 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I imagine they don’t get along too well with their neighbors [01-Oct-20 11:43 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Don’t really make many friends with them [01-Oct-20 11:43 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not that they hate them, more so “you stay out of my way, I’ll stay out of yours” [01-Oct-20 11:43 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But they would be very close knit to their families [01-Oct-20 11:45 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hm. How would that neighbor interaction quirk translate to every day life? How do they approach social situations? [01-Oct-20 11:46 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How do you ||get a Lamia girl's number without her pulling a pistol on you|| [01-Oct-20 11:46 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >how do they approach social situations [01-Oct-20 11:46 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not at all [01-Oct-20 11:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [01-Oct-20 11:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Good question on the second one though [01-Oct-20 11:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Approaching a lamia would be difficult [01-Oct-20 11:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 As they wouldn’t be used to the social interaction [01-Oct-20 11:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They probably could make small conversation [01-Oct-20 11:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Same way with neighbors [01-Oct-20 11:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But overall it would be difficult [01-Oct-20 11:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I imagine once a lamia has made friends with someone, they are considered family [01-Oct-20 11:48 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Awkward autistic snake girl sounds very cute [01-Oct-20 11:49 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "I-I was w-wondering if you w-wanted... w-wanted to c-come and kill s-squirrels withmeinmyfamily'sfields" "uh, yeah, sure, sounds good. Meet you there at 4?" [01-Oct-20 11:49 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Smug snake girl bragging to her sisters "Yeah I pretty much have a boyfriend now, it's going pretty well I guess. He's coming over tonight, actually" [01-Oct-20 11:51 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :happyharpy: [01-Oct-20 11:51 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like this idea [01-Oct-20 11:52 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Although I do wonder still how they would court in their own communities [01-Oct-20 11:52 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If they really don’t talk much with their neighbors [01-Oct-20 11:52 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Unless it’s a whole case where they have close family friends [01-Oct-20 11:54 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Probably certain families, clans more or less but that's not the best word i this case, are friends with others. [01-Oct-20 11:54 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Prolly a fair bit of arranged marriage or at least official "Hey, you bunch of green snakes, go into a big room with that bunch of slightly greener snakes and talk a bunch and eventually make me grandchildren" [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 type deals. [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So dances might be a big deal. Culturally-mandated social events. Arranged marriages might be traditional. [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe there is a matchmaker snek? [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Who’s job it is to go around? [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhh [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Festivals and stuff are good [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 One father of several snakes might talk with another father of several snakes and make active attempts to get two specific snakes to hang out a bunch. [01-Oct-20 11:55 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 11:56 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More arranged marriages and stuff [01-Oct-20 11:56 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s more up to the parents to decide who marries who [01-Oct-20 11:56 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not India-tier where it's actually forced, at least not in modern Lamia shit [01-Oct-20 11:56 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [01-Oct-20 11:56 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More like [01-Oct-20 11:56 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but still a whole lot of "Oh come on you *have* to marry such and such's boy. His family has been friends with ours since before your grandfather was born" {Reactions} you [01-Oct-20 11:57 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “Here is several suggestions that we strongly recommend. We went through a lot getting them, so you better pick one.” [01-Oct-20 11:57 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 in addition to "Okay, you two go fish on the bank, don't come home until it's either dark or you've caught 4 fish." and that happening until the two snakes either fuck or the fathers' get tired of telling them to do it. [01-Oct-20 11:59 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like this idea [01-Oct-20 12:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >do jobs with the same old lamia >always jokes that he’ll take me back to his village and give me his daughter to marry >laugh it off >go back to his village >mfw his daughter knows all about me >mfw he told his daughter that I was going to marry her >mfw there is a wedding already being planned {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761301727416418314/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 12:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I feel like most traditional lamia match making would be very very strategic rather than tactical or directly forceful. Two fathers sitting at a table discussing things. "Alright, we'll just have them fish for a few more weeks, something is bound to happen." "Yes, yes... though, my girl's favorite food is oranges, how about you have your boy bring an orange on this next fishing trip? That might start something" {Reactions} you [01-Oct-20 12:03 PM] instant ramen#8608 so gook lamia? [01-Oct-20 12:03 PM] instant ramen#8608 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761302389143109702/1596753745685.png [01-Oct-20 12:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhh [01-Oct-20 12:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s a good idea [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, from a one-off meme about Lamia language sounding like Vietnamese. [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] instant ramen#8608 if they are just gooks im going to go ROK [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Nah [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Gook inspired [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 n-no, d-don't kill my wife Ramen-kun please :bigsad: [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] instant ramen#8608 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761302515178274837/tfwyoudiedsoyourkidscouldmakeshittykpop.jpg [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] instant ramen#8608 if i see VC [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] instant ramen#8608 guerilla [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] instant ramen#8608 or communism [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] instant ramen#8608 in the same sentence [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] instant ramen#8608 im getting the M16 [01-Oct-20 12:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >tfw even snakes are better than actual Vietnamese {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761302644315783178/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Funny enough Lamias don’t like big government [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] instant ramen#8608 *I SEE U SNAKE-SHIT* {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761302705539907624/FLYBOY2.jpg [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So don’t worry [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] instant ramen#8608 but i jest [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >If I see VC My snake wife would be descended from ARVN. [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] instant ramen#8608 what did u come up with [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I got a nigga up in Wisconsin whomst is dating this Hmong girl, not exactly Vietnamese in the strictest sense, but, practically speaking one [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Her grandpa apparently fought the VC [01-Oct-20 12:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 P. based [01-Oct-20 12:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What did we come up with? [01-Oct-20 12:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Let’s actually list it out [01-Oct-20 12:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Bullet point time [01-Oct-20 12:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >lamias [01-Oct-20 12:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >not very social [01-Oct-20 12:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >like being left alone, more so just family and close friends [01-Oct-20 12:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >not one for talking with neighbors [01-Oct-20 12:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >typically live in jungle area with soft clay soil [01-Oct-20 12:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >like living in caves and tunnel systems [01-Oct-20 12:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >enjoy nice flat rock areas outside of their home (usually polished granite) to sun themselves on [01-Oct-20 12:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >typically only eat once a day, having a huge meal at that time and then napping afterwords [01-Oct-20 12:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >festivals, dances, etc are very big things [01-Oct-20 12:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >lamias usually court each other through matches that have been arranged by the family [01-Oct-20 12:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >less an arranged marriage, more so one family discussing with another family which of their children would couple well together [01-Oct-20 12:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >strategically does so in a way where it seems natural (typically by sending the hopeful couple out on tasks or chores) [01-Oct-20 12:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit what am I missing here? [01-Oct-20 12:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Average orb size, for starters. [01-Oct-20 12:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Festivals and dances are big things but there's a big focus on, specifically, pairing off the young snakes who aren't already paired. [01-Oct-20 12:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Probably a courtship period after they get paired off at these dances that lasts a while. Long private walks between the two, tasks given to them to do on some far off corner of the snakes' land. [01-Oct-20 12:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The marriages *are* arranged in many senses but they're not forced. [01-Oct-20 12:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 There's every chance in the world that if both parents are displeased by the pairing, they won't support the pairing financially. So no parent-sponsored wedding festivities. [01-Oct-20 12:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Caves and tunnels are expensive, so in places without such options, or where the ground makes it difficult, and especially in the human world they settle for what they have. [01-Oct-20 12:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They'd be inclined to replace carpeting for several practical reasons but also some subjective ones, with either hardwood or better yet, tile. Even better, granite blocks, but that shit expensive. [01-Oct-20 12:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Paving the inside of your snake-tunnel was probably quite common, with poor niggas using wood, and rich niggas using properly fitted stone, somewhat like tiling. [01-Oct-20 12:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >marble flooring in a house :happyharpy: [01-Oct-20 12:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 To be clear - if both fathers are displeased by a pairing that just happens to happen, they might try to dissuade the two by taking some measures to keep the two too busy to see eachother, to offer other pairing options, and as a second-to-last resort, outright asking them not to make that pairing. [01-Oct-20 12:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Last resort being cut of financial and practical-family-clan assistance for non-essential things. [01-Oct-20 12:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also as an aside, @instant ramen Why don't you do Vietnam ROK cosplay. You've already got the AR clone for it. [01-Oct-20 12:19 PM] instant ramen#8608 the Ichord Subcommittee emphasized how the ROK troops were getting XM16E1s and I think 604s {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761306293742207010/OKWHYTHOUGH.jpg [01-Oct-20 12:19 PM] instant ramen#8608 my rifle is a little too early for that era of Vietnam [01-Oct-20 12:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Probably sex before marriage isn't the issue, instead sex before a certain stage in snake courtship. Maybe some event where the patriarch snake welcomes the other snake into their home in a certain way. [01-Oct-20 12:20 PM] instant ramen#8608 *ill let u fuck my daughter if u aren't some prick* [01-Oct-20 12:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe there's two dinner tables. The table for family only, and the table that one eats with visitors at or just sticks visitors by themselves. And you can only fuck after the Patriarch or Matriarch invites the outsider courting snake to the main table. [01-Oct-20 12:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I imagine it being like one of those small folding blue kids tables [01-Oct-20 12:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's the shittier option. [01-Oct-20 12:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If there's an outsider they actually like a lot, but is still an outsider, they roll out the good table. [01-Oct-20 12:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761306752137297961/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 12:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If they're poor the entire thing is the shitty folding table [01-Oct-20 12:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I wonder if on specific festivals or holy day type deals, they eat even more than usual. [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >go visit snake gf home >get stuck at the little kids table because I haven’t earned the fathers respect >jokes on you, I like this table [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe the entire celebration is a lot of eating, dancing, and sleeping, over and over again, and perhaps not in that order. [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] instant ramen#8608 >little kids table {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761307082070687786/notananimegirl.PNG [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 GF-chan would probably sit with Anon to be polite~ [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a harvest festival? [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] instant ramen#8608 were u guys at my house when korean friends came over [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] instant ramen#8608 wtf [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Harvest festivals are based. [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] instant ramen#8608 next thing u're going to say is that they have paganistic thanksgiving/ancestor worship [01-Oct-20 12:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They could eat all the surplus [01-Oct-20 12:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wait [01-Oct-20 12:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 y-yeah kinda [01-Oct-20 12:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ever had leftovers for dinner? [01-Oct-20 12:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And it’s pretty much whatever in the fridge [01-Oct-20 12:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That could be the festival [01-Oct-20 12:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Where after winter or something [01-Oct-20 12:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They eat all the stored surplus that wouldn’t last another year [01-Oct-20 12:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like a reverse harvest festival [01-Oct-20 12:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm'. I like that. [01-Oct-20 12:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 There's the young people's festival meme, where the entire point is for pairings to arise without specifically being planned by the fathers involved. [01-Oct-20 12:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe a two family dance, three family dance, something like that. [01-Oct-20 12:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but I wonder what the older or already paired snakes do at those times. Maybe they've got their own thing, or maybe they've got a more general festival for everybody, in those cases. [01-Oct-20 12:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a more general festival [01-Oct-20 12:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What if for the already paired snakes it’s like Valentine’s Day? [01-Oct-20 12:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They do the romantic lovey dovey stuff [01-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Cute. "Oh honey, let's go to all the places we went when we were young and courting" "Alright dear~" [01-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 they go there, the bank of the river where their families sent them to fish all those times [01-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and there's 12 other couples also there [01-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 their fathers aren't very creative. [01-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :happyharpy: [01-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like that idea [01-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Would it be a commonly known thing that being sent to fish together is a courting thing? [01-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or is it always a surprise? [01-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More chalked up to coincidence [01-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In some regions, certainly. Maybe not common for the ones being courted to understand [01-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 kind of like how uh [01-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 even as a teen there are still some jokes or references you only get when you become an adult [01-Oct-20 12:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So even if it was a dry year or a bad time to fish or if one of the fathers unironically *did* need the squirrels cleared out of their land so he sent them on that task, all the adult snakes would know. [01-Oct-20 12:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Just like how everybody knows about the driving out to look-out point to make out thing, even if they've never done that and never knew anyone who did anything similar. [01-Oct-20 12:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761310251496112178/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 12:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 12:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That is a really good idea [01-Oct-20 12:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Snake girl keeps taking Anon on fishing trips over and over again >He still hasn't played footsie with her tail or asked to hold her hand >She's really confused by all these mixed signals {Reactions} happyharpy (3) [01-Oct-20 12:39 PM] mothman#1742 lmao [01-Oct-20 12:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Snakes probably could tank some raw food much better than humans can, but they still much much prefer normal cooked food [01-Oct-20 12:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 to the point where in the modern day you can't really find a snake that's eaten raw food beyond doing it for the meme [01-Oct-20 12:40 PM] mothman#1742 lets go fishing {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761311533098860554/b629547741436c5bcbfc3c7fcb36f870.png [01-Oct-20 12:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But I bet they do have this instinctual lizard-brain appeal when they see an Item their brain identifies as food, that is also moving or squirming on it's own. [01-Oct-20 12:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So octopus that's still moving, but also cooked, which I thiiiiink is a thing, is probably something they'd like. [01-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >jello and gummy worms are extremely appealing [01-Oct-20 12:41 PM] mothman#1742 yee [01-Oct-20 12:41 PM] mothman#1742 lamia culture sounds great [01-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >they like aspic [01-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761311896967315456/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 w-what in the fuck is that [01-Oct-20 12:41 PM] mothman#1742 also the dancing thing makes sense because snakes irl actually do dance when mating [01-Oct-20 12:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. Dancing is important for Lamias. [01-Oct-20 12:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Dance on holy days or festivals, dance on birthdays, dance throughout courtship, dance also being the very very start of courtship. [01-Oct-20 12:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s Aspic [01-Oct-20 12:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Savory gelatin meal [01-Oct-20 12:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Instead of fruit and sugar [01-Oct-20 12:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s made with meat [01-Oct-20 12:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And stock [01-Oct-20 12:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 how is this food [01-Oct-20 12:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also in that same sense, Lamia probably prefer things hot. Cold food is more unappetizing to them than it is to us. Drinks are an obvious exception, as well as ice cream, and they can maybe deal with it in the case of pie [01-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But like, cold chicken? Cold pizza? Struggle. [01-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s from the 1950s/after refrigeration [01-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wouldn’t hot food heat them up too fast though? [01-Oct-20 12:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Although that also goes for cold food [01-Oct-20 12:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, maybe. They're warm blooded, otherwise the snussy would be uncomfortable. [01-Oct-20 12:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Live food is warm, though, and if they have some lizard brain tendencies towards live food, stands to reason they'd also prefer it hot. [01-Oct-20 12:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or at least warm. [01-Oct-20 12:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 When I say hot I don't actually mean hot, but, y'know, warm. [01-Oct-20 12:47 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ahhh [01-Oct-20 12:47 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Okay, that makes sense [01-Oct-20 12:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lamia eating room temperature sushi [01-Oct-20 12:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like when one says "hot food" in the culinary industry context they don't mean it literally they mean it's just served somewhere over room temp. [01-Oct-20 12:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Lamia has to force a smile >"AahHhh... So.. Yummy. Thank you for.. this.. stuff." [01-Oct-20 01:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How flexible is the end section of a lamia tail anyway [01-Oct-20 01:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And how dexterous [01-Oct-20 01:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael [01-Oct-20 01:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably rather dexterous [01-Oct-20 01:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Much more so than a regular snake Tail [01-Oct-20 01:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would it be a thing to tie two snakes tails together for some reason? Trying to think of what that would do... I guess... Lamia sack race equivalent? [01-Oct-20 02:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :itstime: [01-Oct-20 02:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia sack race [01-Oct-20 02:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Could be part of the festival [01-Oct-20 02:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I feel like Lamia would like fishing a lot [01-Oct-20 02:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 02:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Just coil up [01-Oct-20 02:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sit by a river bank [01-Oct-20 02:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not doing anything [01-Oct-20 02:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The Hmong here in Cali are and historically were mountain niggas [01-Oct-20 02:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Theyre known to poach a lot [01-Oct-20 02:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Just relaxing [01-Oct-20 02:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The low land gooks tho, [01-Oct-20 02:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Them niggas love fishing [01-Oct-20 02:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I would compare lying in a proper Lamia coil to be like sitting in a serving of meaty soft serve ice cream. {Reactions} happyharpy (2) [01-Oct-20 02:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Imagine a Lamia on the missippi laying back in her johnboat, rod tucked into her coil, head propped up by her arms, shade hat on, just idly drifting until she feels a bite on the pole. [01-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That sounds comfy as fuck [01-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I love it [01-Oct-20 05:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I fell asleep for like 3 ish hours [01-Oct-20 05:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 This wouldve been better with a lamia to lay againat I'd wager [01-Oct-20 06:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, how does Lamia society work? They've got all these families, sure, cool, but what happens beyond that? I've imagined most of these people living on either ancestral grounds, or just large plots of property generally. Sometimes farmers and the like build their houses right next to roads, at the very edges of their farms, and much more rarely they build their houses in the center of their land. [01-Oct-20 06:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamias, I'd think, would do the latter. [01-Oct-20 06:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, do they farm? They've got harvest festivals so I suppose they must, right? @Battlebrothermichael [01-Oct-20 06:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And, beyond the individual families, what's the deal with their society? They're against big government, but not all government innately. What would they have in that regard? [01-Oct-20 06:47 PM] Coastie#3790 In my story I had them in the lake between the Panama Canal locks helping the locals with the cartels and other local problems. I think they'll be a meritocracy lead by the elders [01-Oct-20 06:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ju' read the Lamia lore we concocted hours ago, above? Washu' think on that? [01-Oct-20 07:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Coastie [01-Oct-20 07:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I was thinking as well that Lamias would have their houses in the center. Gives them a better sense of protection. [01-Oct-20 07:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe not big government, but a loose local government [01-Oct-20 07:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Almost like a locally elected sheriff of the lamia that everyone likes the best/trusts the most [01-Oct-20 07:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More there to settle land disputes and stuff like that than instruct [01-Oct-20 07:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What about a Lamia nation, though? Do they occasionally today, or have ever, had a King? [01-Oct-20 07:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Perhaps also leads the festivals and whatnot [01-Oct-20 07:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [01-Oct-20 07:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I can see there being a lamia nation [01-Oct-20 07:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a few uncharacteristically outgoing lamias could easily get into politics [01-Oct-20 07:12 PM] Coastie#3790 I posted that when I got off work and I just got home. Give me a minute. [01-Oct-20 07:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mm, but how does that work? I guess the Lamia families may consider themselves part of a Lamia nation, geographically at the least, in that theres a lot of lamias in this certain area [01-Oct-20 07:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But what would they want with Government, unironically, and what purpose would it serve? [01-Oct-20 07:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I would assume htey would want something. Roads, maybe, for trade. Protection against bandits or foreign incursion, maybe. [01-Oct-20 07:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Possibly protection [01-Oct-20 07:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I could see that being the biggest thing [01-Oct-20 07:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It would be hard though to convince the average every day Lamia that they need to join the nation [01-Oct-20 07:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Possibly drought, famine, etc [01-Oct-20 07:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Disastrous weather [01-Oct-20 07:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sever shortage of smooth, flat, sunning rocks {Reactions} unnerved (2) [01-Oct-20 07:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Do niggas generally look more favorably to Kings, or to Faceless National Governments? [01-Oct-20 07:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Makes me think the King could slowly take in area after area, generation after generation of his own offspring being King and doing the same, playing it very diplomatically since Lamia don't like leashes [01-Oct-20 07:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Really tries hard to make his and his descendents reputations as A+ as possible so more Lamia areas are willing to join, kinda deal. [01-Oct-20 07:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sorta on the fence on this idea, but I'm not sure what else there'd be. [01-Oct-20 07:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah, I’m not sure either [01-Oct-20 07:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Unless it’s less of a kingdom [01-Oct-20 07:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More described as “giant anti-government compound” [01-Oct-20 07:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Something something horseshoe theory [01-Oct-20 07:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh. [01-Oct-20 07:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “We made a giant walled off city to protect us from the government, and put anti-government leaders in charge” [01-Oct-20 07:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe it's a religious thing [01-Oct-20 07:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The King is some sort of Demigod type deal, which is why he's accepted as the King at all, and why the Lamia pay low taxes to him. [01-Oct-20 07:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In addition to being genuinely a good King, in a line of genuinely good Kings. [01-Oct-20 07:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ahhhh [01-Oct-20 07:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That could work [01-Oct-20 07:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not necessarily literally a Demigod in power, just in either Lamia belief or technical classification. [01-Oct-20 07:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Just some awkward dude who had a weird skin discoloration [01-Oct-20 07:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >does his job regardless [01-Oct-20 07:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe certain families are Noble and occasionally marry into or out of the King's line, said families also being hte main traditional military families. [01-Oct-20 07:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinking the King niggas and to a lesser extent the nobles would have a distinct look compared to most Lamia. [01-Oct-20 07:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, we're talking about Lamia niggas in Lamia-Vietnam, right? Laminam... Vietmia... Vietlamia. [01-Oct-20 07:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Vietlamia..? hmm. {Reactions} itstime [01-Oct-20 07:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Much of this is probably applicable to other Lamia cultures, in terms of the uh, biology and the quirks therein, and the cultural aspects affected by those quirks. [01-Oct-20 07:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Family focused, no-step-on-snake, smol government, very independent, very land-centric in a lot of ways [01-Oct-20 07:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [01-Oct-20 07:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What type of distinct look? [01-Oct-20 07:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe more snakelike? [01-Oct-20 07:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Different eyes, sharper teeth, venomous, etc? [01-Oct-20 07:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not sure... Issue with being more snakelike is that might make them less fuckable, and separate from lewd purposes, might make them very offputting. [01-Oct-20 07:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Recall our discussion on Samantha the Snake Sheriff, she doesn't like snakes, most Lamia don't, just like humans [01-Oct-20 07:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Depends what one means by more snakelike though I suppose. [01-Oct-20 07:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinking coloration, facial features, general body features if such a thing could be applicable. [01-Oct-20 07:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe that revulsion gives a sense of fear to the Demi-god ones? [01-Oct-20 07:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fear and respect? [01-Oct-20 07:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Something something fear of god? [01-Oct-20 07:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, maybe. Maybe. [01-Oct-20 07:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe the Royalty have pretty potent magic, as well? What got me thinking that was literally remembering uhhh [01-Oct-20 07:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the jungle book, with the snake with the hypno-eyes [01-Oct-20 07:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah! [01-Oct-20 07:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes! [01-Oct-20 07:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That would work [01-Oct-20 07:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe regular lamias aren’t as magically charged, but the “royalty” are [01-Oct-20 07:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmhmm. That's certainly an aspect I'd like to pursue, but, physical differences are important too. [01-Oct-20 07:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Speaking of, the rattler Lamias are brown-ish, y'said, right? What about these Vietlamias. [01-Oct-20 07:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe the more Royal, the less brown, just like literally every civilization ever? [01-Oct-20 07:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Kek [01-Oct-20 07:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [01-Oct-20 07:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe lamia color depends on region [01-Oct-20 07:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [01-Oct-20 07:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The jungle ones are more jungle snake colored [01-Oct-20 07:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But as they get closer to the sea it’s more reds and yellows like coral snakes [01-Oct-20 07:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Those colors on the human parts? [01-Oct-20 07:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The scale patterns, no question [01-Oct-20 07:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but the human parts are what I'm thinkin' on. [01-Oct-20 07:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like dis bitch. Blonde, white skin like God intended {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761416837983764490/latest.png [01-Oct-20 07:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Wheremst she from? Vietlamia? Ormst do the Vietlamia niggas never look like this? Or do some areas in the Vietlamia area look like this, so it's really quite regionally dependent? [01-Oct-20 07:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Semi-local-regionally-dependent [01-Oct-20 07:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Said Orb-tube also has a very kawaii scale coloration and pattern [01-Oct-20 07:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Reminds me of very fine silk [01-Oct-20 07:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe coloration varies by family? [01-Oct-20 07:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 She could be from Vietlamia [01-Oct-20 07:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, family and general region. [01-Oct-20 07:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Two families with adjoining property over hunnids' of years could end up having similar ish color tones to eachother. Perhaps so much so that, despite more or less being friends, they start really pushing their pairing-age snakes apart to other separate families. [01-Oct-20 07:47 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [01-Oct-20 07:47 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Don’t want any accidental incest [01-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, do'mst Lamia lay eggs? [01-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I was skirting around this subject because I don’t know [01-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because the genitals are human [01-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But [01-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm going to say yes. Snakes do, irl, right? Or... Wait.. [01-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The bottom half is snake [01-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I think *most* snakes lay eggs [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but Rattlers specifically are live birth, iirc. [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Most snakes do IRL [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Something I'll look up later. [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe the rattler lamia give live birth [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 At any rate, could have it be like that. Most Lamia do eggs. [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But regular lamia tend to produce an egg [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Wait [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Question is [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Single egg [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 do snakes lay unfertilized eggs [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or multiple [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] instant ramen#8608 OH U GUYS ARE STILL DOING THIS [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 because Lamia are *big* snakes [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] instant ramen#8608 WHAT ELSE DID U MAKE [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 y-yes [01-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 L-Lamia lore [01-Oct-20 07:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I took a 4 hour nap so not much in that period, but [01-Oct-20 07:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mostly Lamia government and society. Lamia government needs to be paired with Religion or mono-ethnic stuff to really be internally stable [01-Oct-20 07:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or have a very constant external force pushing them together. [01-Oct-20 07:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They're not one for Government in their business or authority they, personally, didn't give permission to be above them. [01-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Personal freedoms are probably pretty big. Life sentences might be seen as cruel and unusual punishment, for instance. It might be that they're less keen on normal prisons and more keen on house arrest, or an equivalent. [01-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ahhh [01-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s good [01-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Infinitevegetals#7795 So to reproduce a lamia they just give you a handy and you have to nut on their eggs right {Reactions} unnerved itstime [01-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So some Lamia does some bad shit, the local Lamia government gives him a fair trial, and sentence him to 5 years on his own family property. If there is no family property for some reason, maybe some other arrangements are made. [01-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 handies are probably involved at some point, but cumming inside women is very very important [01-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Infinitevegetals that’s fish that do that, not snakes [01-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Would Lamia be like harpys [01-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Where the egg hesitates inside for a little bit [01-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Then is laid [01-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Then is incubated? [01-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Before it hatches [01-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah. I don't think eggs could really work otherwise. [01-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What's the alternative, they stay in until the day they hatch? [01-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Infinitevegetals#7795 So they have a puss is what your saying [01-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More like egg is fertilized and then laid to incubate [01-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Snake pussy [01-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They def have a puss [01-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snussy [01-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the word you're looking for is Snussy, Mal- [01-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 yeah [01-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Nice [01-Oct-20 08:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, cum inside Lamia, she starts looking pregnant after a few months, she spits out an egg within idunno 4 - 6 months of inception, and then goes into a very instinctually driven protective frenzy over the egg for a month or two or three. [01-Oct-20 08:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm not sure how Snakes handle their eggs irl, but I imagine Lamia coil around them to give them heat a lot. [01-Oct-20 08:04 PM] Coastie#3790 Makes a nest out of the clean, freshly laundered cloths [01-Oct-20 08:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The late stages of "having a child" for Lamia, I say having a child since technically speaking the pregnancy ends after 4 to 6 months of course, end up leaving the female Lamia really ragged. Bitch hasn't seen the sun in 3 months, hasn't got to rest her orbs on a sunning rock in double that time [01-Oct-20 08:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Probably not much in the way of exercise, naturally not much in the way of socialization but I imagine when a Lamia gets into that, uhh... Nesting Stage or whatever, her friends and family come to visit her often, since she won't want to leave the egg(s). [01-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Coastie#3790 Immediate food shopping spree after laying to get as mich food as possible. To minimize eggs alone time [01-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A very strong natural instinct to keep the egg as safe as possible. Sometimes this means descending into her family caves. In our world, this means the Basement or she turns the bedroom into a fortress. [01-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Kek [01-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe. She'd probably want to send her Husbando out to get the food. If she for some reason didn't have that option, and didn't have family to do it, then she'd certainly try to get a lot of food. [01-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe the hormones she releases also trigger the other lamias like this as well? [01-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Where they also become more protective of the eggs? [01-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Imagine a snake girl wrapped around an egg, wearing a repro stalhelm, with ammo cans acting as sand bags for a Lewis gun at the foot of the bed [01-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Very cute. [01-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Coastie#3790 Lizards don't do pheromones [01-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But sales can smell heat and stuff like that [01-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, but these aren't all lizard. That being said Idunno about pheromones causing that [01-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe just some instinctual urge to assist the mother-to-be. [01-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Coastie#3790 But the other female lamias know what she's going through and want to help? [01-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mentally, probably. Maybe it's usually a family thing. [01-Oct-20 08:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But if there aren't any family around maybe her Lamia friends would feel some natural inclination for it too. [01-Oct-20 08:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Friendly visits just exacerbating that feeling. [01-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Coastie#3790 >haven't seen preggers lately? >oh she just layed >we should probably bring her some food then. [01-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Coastie#3790 >OH cute eggy! [01-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, what kind of skin tone can we expect in Vietlamia? Gook, white, dark-gook, *maybe* sand nigger, and occasionally American Injun for shit like rattlers and the like? @Battlebrothermichael [01-Oct-20 08:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I say yes, all of the above [01-Oct-20 08:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Depending on the family and where they are [01-Oct-20 08:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If more field oriented Tan-ish [01-Oct-20 08:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But foresty and shaded would mean paler [01-Oct-20 08:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Was just glancing over what we said and I missed a comment of yours. >Single egg or multiple One or two, three being quite unusual, 4 four being really really unusual, and 5 and 6 being state wide newspaper worthy maybe [01-Oct-20 08:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmmm... Well, what do Royal Lamia look like? Niggas part of the King's line. [01-Oct-20 08:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Bright luminous scales, like that cutie lamia I posted earlier? Scales line shining silk? [01-Oct-20 08:39 PM] mothman#1742 maybe king cobras ? [01-Oct-20 08:39 PM] mothman#1742 with the hood [01-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinkin' of King Cobras generally, but howmst do you work in the hoods. [01-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Plus when I think King Cobras I really think Violence [01-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 a lot of violence [01-Oct-20 08:39 PM] mothman#1742 maybe the hood is still there, i just pops up on their necck [01-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not so much the Stately and 400 IQ diplomatic God-King niggas Harpy and I spoke of. [01-Oct-20 08:39 PM] mothman#1742 kind of like a frill [01-Oct-20 08:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably very luminous [01-Oct-20 08:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hell [01-Oct-20 08:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What if some of the scales flowed in the dark from magical charge? [01-Oct-20 08:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Cute [01-Oct-20 08:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761432957251747860/latest.png [01-Oct-20 08:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Look at the shine these scales have. Royal blood. [01-Oct-20 08:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Fairly pale, maybe also an indication of, sometimes, noble blood. [01-Oct-20 08:44 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhh [01-Oct-20 08:44 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe golden/fair skin is an indicator of royalty? [01-Oct-20 08:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, like I said earlier, royal or noble or king niggas are generally a lot lighter skinned than the people they rule [01-Oct-20 08:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 historically anyway [01-Oct-20 08:46 PM] Infinitevegetals#7795 [01-Oct-20 08:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So you get the Whiteoid Lamia who are thought of as attractive specifically because of their paleness in Lamia society but who aren't actual nobles - Forest dwelling ones like you said and probably regional groupings of Lamia that are light skinned regardless of the environment, and then the King Niggas got 'dem amazing scales and skin that tends toward gold or otherwise fair. [01-Oct-20 08:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What about Albino lamias? [01-Oct-20 08:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That could be in their culture [01-Oct-20 08:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe their god is described as “a great white snake” [01-Oct-20 08:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ||~~which is actually human dicks~~|| [01-Oct-20 08:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Bad joke [01-Oct-20 08:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That makes me think of Lamia priestesses [01-Oct-20 08:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and then playing around with them in exactly that way. [01-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, Albino stuff might work. The great white snake that spawned their royal line being white, but the royal line itself, at least for as long as anyone could ever track down or remember, is merely just fairly pale as far as snakes go. [01-Oct-20 08:51 PM] mothman#1742 @Battlebrothermichael i like the way you think mah nigga [01-Oct-20 08:51 PM] mothman#1742 :itstime: [01-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ITS JUST A JOKE [01-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 THAT ISNT CANON [01-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Well the albino thing maybe [01-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But the dick thing isn’t [01-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also they're huge fans of ||white snake|| ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfyNI0GAZ-A|| {Embed} damjan pajk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfyNI0GAZ-A WHITESNAKE - here i go again (best version) pajk :) I don't know where I'm goin but I sure know where I've been hanging on the promises in songs of yesterday. An' I've made up my mind, I ain't wasting no more time but here I go again, here I go again. Tho' I keep searching for an answer I never seem to ... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gfyNI0GAZ-A/hqdefault.jpg [01-Oct-20 08:52 PM] mothman#1742 ||how did you know i like BLEACHED and human male x monster female ?|| [01-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >the dick thing isn't Of course not, *but*, a situation where you're dating a Lamia priestess and work that into it could certainly be. [01-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The great white snake thing almost makes me think of Nephilim [01-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And how in the Bible they bred with the human women, making strange offspring [01-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I like the idea of a Lamia priestess who got into Dadrock because she saw one of the bands was called Whitesnake, and wears a bandshirt under her kawaii priestess garments. [01-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “BEHOLD OUR HOLY PARCHMENT!” [01-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >unrolls band poster [01-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Here's an artist's rendition of our Creation Story." {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761436527091515422/SPOILER_PP803.png [01-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ok [01-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But really though [01-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That could work [01-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >there’s an ancient creation mural that looks suspiciously close to that poster [01-Oct-20 08:58 PM] Overland#3496 Are all Texans as based as you Whitesnake is top tier [01-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Texans [01-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 O-Overland-kun [01-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I-I [01-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Overland#3496 Oh no Don't say it [01-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Overland#3496 ||poobumfornia|| [01-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 *I'm Californian* {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761437249669693480/IMG_20191012_2213378.jpg [01-Oct-20 09:02 PM] Overland#3496 Oh [01-Oct-20 09:02 PM] Overland#3496 Spaghetti oven [01-Oct-20 09:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway what do we got then. Demigod King of Vietlamia. All the niggas accept him, most of them happily, but all of them at least willingly, because he's a God King. Kinda like the Japs in a sense. [01-Oct-20 09:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sounds about right [01-Oct-20 09:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 His line is pretty broad, and a lot of noble families have a few drops in them, most of whom are very specialized in military shit or occasionally governmental project type niggas. [01-Oct-20 09:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Proper Royal blood niggas have downright Luminous scales. Like beautiful living silk. The richer nobles and peasant merchants especially probably wax and lacquer their own scales to mimic the look, which was quite stylish historically and still has some place even today. [01-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lamia royalty Discover turtle wax and car buffers [01-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Merchants are prolly city Lamia in large part. Whole families owning areas maybe half the size of a modern city block [01-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >never been more grossly iridescent [01-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So they still have some semblance of privacy and autonomy from their neighbors, but are much much much closer together than the much more typical rural lamia. [01-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe both literally and figuratively [01-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, as far as any Fankasia race, Lamia probably unironically have the most historic and traditional knowledge of waxes and buffing. To the point where if, for some strange reason, Dwarven industry requires a touch or two of that, they subcontract it out to the Lamia. [01-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Overland ^ [01-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Dwarves show up on the doorstep of the Lamia royalty in the dark of night [01-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Overland#3496 What [01-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >shamefully hold up several rings [01-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Overland#3496 What's this [01-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >”oh, here. Let me get that.” >Lamia just polishes them in five minutes >”there you go.” [01-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 We're talking Lamia lore [01-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Overland#3496 Oh waifugarbage I think you pinged the wrong person [01-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and I'm saying that Lamia's have a huge history of waxes and buffing for autistic cultural reasons [01-Oct-20 09:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and that, historically, Dwarves might occasionally contract or subcontract them for their services in that regard because they're genuinely just the best at that specific and rare thing. [01-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [01-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamias do live underground [01-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, much much more shallowly than Dwarves do. [01-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So they wouldn’t be as out of place in dwarven keeps [01-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe at the more surface level area [01-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 To visit more or less and work the jobs [01-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But even then, they wouldn’t feel as at home [01-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Since dwarves are more social [01-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Overland#3496 Make them like the krell from mass effect Do all the dirty work in exchange for continued existence An entire race living on borrowed time [01-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Speaking of which, the Lamias with more well built-up family estates, including the large underground portions, probably have raised walking surfaces generally, but especially for when it rains. The water travels under these raises platforms and through the tunnels and eventually makes it's way to the Lamia's equivalent of a sub-basement room, where all the water collects from these really bad rains [01-Oct-20 09:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and that room is basically a giant sand-filter [01-Oct-20 09:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 so that room drains out into another one slightly bellow and to the side of it, [01-Oct-20 09:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 which, itself is a large clay-brick-lined water-proof water cistern. [01-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761441582754693150/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Holy shit [01-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s amazing [01-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Very poor families or ones that for some reason have very poorly constructed tunnel homes, or cheaply constructed ones at least, might not even have raised walking surfaces [01-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Those that do would surely, surely, surely have them be made of wood and be fairly rough. [01-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Richer(In this case by Richer I mean richer than the poor niggas. So, like, lower middle-class) niggas have proper and good-looking walking surfaces that cover the entire breadth of the tunnels, raised off the ground of course. Richer niggas might start having fine clay tiled surfaces on top of the wood [01-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and yet richer niggas would have full on carved stone, fit together very well and very smooth. [01-Oct-20 09:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In fact, the richer Lamias probably had quite a few faux pas' when equally rich Humans visited, and found the incredibly smooth and polished stone floors somewhat slippery, *especially* so in the rainy season when you'd have trouble not getting at least a little wet here and there. [01-Oct-20 09:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Resulting in them slipping on their ass [01-Oct-20 09:21 PM] mothman#1742 lmao [01-Oct-20 09:21 PM] mothman#1742 i love lamias so much [01-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :bigkek: [01-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s perfect [01-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 In Thailand [01-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Often in the main entertaining room (like a big living, dining room, etc) they often have a huge slab of marble flooring. Reason being that it is a big heat sink(?) and cools off the entire room very well. [01-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d picture lamias having something similar in their main living areas [01-Oct-20 09:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >tfw you will never ride your Lamia wife like the train at disneyland as she takes you on a tour of her family's very well-appointed tunnel section of their estate [01-Oct-20 09:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Why even live? [01-Oct-20 09:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >tfw the ||United Estates of Vietlamia|| [01-Oct-20 09:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That shouldn’t have made me snicker as loudly as it did [01-Oct-20 09:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I've found a diagram detailing what I mean: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761443799749754911/cane-toads-python.png [01-Oct-20 09:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Just sitting on her tail as she drags you along [01-Oct-20 09:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >tfw she wants you to return the favor by giving her a piggy back ride [01-Oct-20 09:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Alright kids, get up onto Mom, she's going to show us her room from when she was a girl" [01-Oct-20 09:26 PM] mothman#1742 :56709: [01-Oct-20 09:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >400 pounds of ass, titties, and long-ass snake body getting on my back [01-Oct-20 09:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 :unnerved: [01-Oct-20 09:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This is why we lift [01-Oct-20 09:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Speaking of which, how long is the average Lamia, tail tip to crown [01-Oct-20 09:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 How many square miles would a Lamia living space have to be? [01-Oct-20 09:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 15 - 20 feet? [01-Oct-20 09:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah [01-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d think the human section would be 3 1/2ft–4ft easily [01-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm. [01-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe about fifteen [01-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And the snake section I think needs to be at *least* 3 times the length of the human section. [01-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 With twenty being an extra large lamia [01-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So 15 - 25 feet being the average range? [01-Oct-20 09:28 PM] mothman#1742 what about small lamias ? [01-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So around 12ft-15ft being the average? [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mm. [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wait [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Average range isn't the right word [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 potential range is better. [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Potential [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 15ft is probably the average length [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 With deviations going both ways [01-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 12 is the short ass ones, 15 is more normal, 18 is gettin' a lil long, 20 - 25 is the really longmst niggas. [01-Oct-20 09:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Are the Vietlamia Royalty longer or the same as most Lamia [01-Oct-20 09:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Is that 15 feet of tial or 15 feet overall [01-Oct-20 09:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oh I mean tail [01-Oct-20 09:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wait fuck I’m retarded [01-Oct-20 09:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >tip to crown [01-Oct-20 09:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably about 20ft [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That's better. [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Okay so 20 feet is what, middle average? [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And 15 is short, 25 is long? [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That sounds about right [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] instant ramen#8608 >25 foot lamia girl [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] instant ramen#8608 jesus christ [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 For the 15ft one that means tail is barely 11ft long [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] instant ramen#8608 all that tail [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @instant ramen that’s total length, tail tip to head [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] instant ramen#8608 how heavy it would be [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So about [01-Oct-20 09:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 20ft of tail? [01-Oct-20 09:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ramen-kun, you're in Math, do the math and tell me how much tail is necessary to wrap around a human body. [01-Oct-20 09:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How thick are the tails did you say Harpy-kun? [01-Oct-20 09:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 30 - 40 inches wide? [01-Oct-20 09:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [01-Oct-20 09:34 PM] instant ramen#8608 i come here to escape life [01-Oct-20 09:34 PM] instant ramen#8608 not to be reminded of it [01-Oct-20 09:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 When your math teachers in school said you'd need math in real life, this, specifically, is what they meant Ramen-kun. [01-Oct-20 09:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 About as wide round as a human torso probably, if not a little more [01-Oct-20 09:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How inconvenient is that length of tail anyway.. [01-Oct-20 09:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And also, some of that length is taken up by acting as legs, putting them at or above human height [01-Oct-20 09:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 despite the torso being 3 - 4 feet long. [01-Oct-20 09:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So their "standing" length, not counting their vertical length in that, would be what.. their tail minus 2, 2 and a half feet? [01-Oct-20 09:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably about that [01-Oct-20 09:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *IF* they wanted to read up that high [01-Oct-20 09:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Regular snakes can do it, but rarely [01-Oct-20 09:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Really depends on the snake [01-Oct-20 09:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So assuming average length, in practice, it's more like 17 or 18 feet of tail. Which is a lot of tail but not *sooo* much that it would become a major problem in a human home, I don't think. [01-Oct-20 09:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe only very athletic lamia can do it? [01-Oct-20 09:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Can do what? [01-Oct-20 09:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Completely read up like Th at [01-Oct-20 09:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fully [01-Oct-20 09:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Most of them would be content to be at standard human height I would think [01-Oct-20 09:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably resting around 6-7ft [01-Oct-20 09:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. So 4 feet of torso give or take and 2 feet of tail, give or take, yee? [01-Oct-20 09:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yee [01-Oct-20 09:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. Wassat mean for Lamia homeland tunnel *height* though [01-Oct-20 09:39 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 in my story Dooser WAS about 16 feet long now he's only 12, due to a unfortunate encounter with a buzzsaw [01-Oct-20 09:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What height are they comfortable moving around in their own home tunnel. [01-Oct-20 09:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Dooser-pill me [01-Oct-20 09:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fuck I need to catch up on your story [01-Oct-20 09:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :bigsad: [01-Oct-20 09:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Speaking of which, I don't think you ever read mine nigga' [01-Oct-20 09:41 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 he's an adventurer who wound up on Earth ran into mega-bullshit on Fankasia joined BC Anon, due to finally getting to relax, due to being a part of someone else's quest instead of dragging other people into his own shit [01-Oct-20 09:41 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 uses a Beretta 1301 like slugs a lot [01-Oct-20 09:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I have a lot of reading to catch up on :bigsad: :bigsad: :bigsad: [01-Oct-20 09:43 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 when BC gets to Fankasia, his ~~adventuring party with extra steps~~ ragtag militia-group will run into some of Dooser's old pals [01-Oct-20 09:43 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 amongst other things [01-Oct-20 09:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, speaking of which, how much do Lamias weigh then? A larger than normal human section and 20 feet of Lamia tail that's roughly speaking a circle of meat the belt-size of a human torso roughly [01-Oct-20 09:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What in the hell can we translate that into for weight [01-Oct-20 09:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Well [01-Oct-20 09:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Anacondas usually weigh around 1,100lbs [01-Oct-20 09:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Google tells me human legs are about 17 percent of body weight. Let's call it 20 to be easy. [01-Oct-20 09:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And they are about 12 inches in diameter and 30-ish feet [01-Oct-20 09:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So [01-Oct-20 09:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So take away 20 percent off human average, and then increase it by what... How much bigger at the human sections of Lamia than humans? 10 percent? 20? 30? [01-Oct-20 09:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s potential a lamia could weigh about a ton [01-Oct-20 09:46 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 measure how much a slab of meat 20 feet long, about 2 feet wide, weighs then, add 83% of an average human weight [01-Oct-20 09:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm. Shit. Lamia tails are roughly half of Anaconda overall length, but they're more than twice as thick roughly speaking. Call'm about a ton then, I guess. [01-Oct-20 09:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Shit Lamia are fucking heavy [01-Oct-20 09:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Damn [01-Oct-20 09:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s one hell of a piggy back [01-Oct-20 09:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe 20 feet of Lamia tail's a bit much, considering that. [01-Oct-20 09:50 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ehhh [01-Oct-20 09:50 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Nah [01-Oct-20 09:50 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Keep it [01-Oct-20 09:50 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe around 1,500pounds total? [01-Oct-20 09:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Y'think so? I just walked-out about 15 feet of space as the crow flies in my kitchen and that's not that insanely long of a creature to have walking around a human home imo. [01-Oct-20 09:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Depends. [01-Oct-20 09:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Are Lamia more muscular in the human section in addition to just being bigger [01-Oct-20 09:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 if not, 1,300. If so, 1,500. [01-Oct-20 09:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 holy shit [01-Oct-20 09:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A lamia GF would weigh like, [01-Oct-20 09:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 75 percent of what my car weighs [01-Oct-20 09:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, at 1,500 pounds she would. [01-Oct-20 09:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Weird to think that every percentage point of weight removed off the tail section would be a little more than 10 pounds of weight off. [01-Oct-20 09:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, that seems like a conclusion I suppose. I hope the Lamia get some benefit for all that weight. [01-Oct-20 09:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Speaking of, what can their tail do? It's really strong, I should think, as it needs to propel itself at the very least. [01-Oct-20 09:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761451523141402624/unknown.png [01-Oct-20 09:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm... [01-Oct-20 09:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A-Are Lamia actually r-really fast? [01-Oct-20 09:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "they grip the surface to propel the snake forward. Due to this, snakes cannot move on glass." Oh shit [01-Oct-20 09:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Okay so apparently 8 is the higher side of average [01-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and it's actually 5 - 8 miles on average, which is slower or the same as human jogging [01-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But that is relative to its size [01-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. [01-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Though the important bit there is uh [01-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the snake portion is what, two or two and a half times as thicc as an anaconda [01-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and... hm. I should google how fast anaconda are. [01-Oct-20 09:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oh they are fucking fast [01-Oct-20 10:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "On land, anacondas are capable of reaching up to 5 miles per hour. In water, anacondas have the ability to maintain a speed of 10 miles per hour. If stalking prey, they have a tendency to move at 8 miles per hour." [01-Oct-20 10:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, not that fast. [01-Oct-20 10:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 As fast as us if they're going after prey, which we can assume is their top speed, or near it [01-Oct-20 10:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 where as ours is what, 12 or 15 or some such. [01-Oct-20 10:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Their water speed is impressive, so that's something of note for sure. [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But consider for the size difference [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But as Anacondas are the baseline for Lamia size and girth, double-ish the size, does that really mean double the speed? [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia go pretty fast [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And yes [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >10mph average speed [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :excuseme: [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Say, 16 if they're sprinting, 10 if they're jogging [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I mean maybe 16 is more like [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 running for their life usan bolt tier [01-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and average sprinting is more like 14 - 15. [01-Oct-20 10:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, faster than us, but not blindingly so. [01-Oct-20 10:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could see Lamia being beaten at track on occasion, for instance. [01-Oct-20 10:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 One downside is slithering oughtta get'm tired faster. It burns more energy, doesn't it? That's supposed to be the meme with humans, our movement is really energy efficient over long-ass distances which allows us to walk-chase prey, in nature. [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia would have to eat a huge amount [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Especially considering how much muscle they have to power [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And they would get tired easily [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmmm... They're as, or nearly as, active as humans. [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Despite being what [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 5 times as large, by mass? [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 shit, more actually [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 6 or 7 times [01-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So they're lookin' at fucking what, [01-Oct-20 10:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 a 17,000 calorie meal? [01-Oct-20 10:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :excuseme: [01-Oct-20 10:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Holy shit I really hope they're able to leverage this into an increased ability to actually get food [01-Oct-20 10:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I mean, [01-Oct-20 10:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I guess ultimately that would make staple foods way more important. [01-Oct-20 10:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Farming [01-Oct-20 10:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Large animals [01-Oct-20 10:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Meat would be important [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Overland#3496 So what's most effective way to kill them Can we take advantage of the fact they slither [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Actually [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ping lopata about that [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhhh [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sugar [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lopatwhom [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and about what [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sugar cane fields [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The killing lamias [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >effective way to kill them Same as normal snakes [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 cut off the head [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Alternatively: [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yee [01-Oct-20 10:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Keep a .357 snub nose in a holster with snake shot. [01-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Overland#3496 Poison on the ground Ingested through skin [01-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Overland#3496 Or Alternatively [01-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Overland#3496 Cover the ground in petrol [01-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Overland#3496 Risk of fire [01-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It'd have to be certain types of ground to hold the petrol in the way you'd want. [01-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A flame thrower might be better. [01-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Flame thrower, maybe AP 5.56 [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Problem is I imagine most of the vitals are in the human section. [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Same here [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It really wouldn’t be that hard [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe a very long digestive tract in the lamia section, and of course blood vessels to supply all that meat and muscle and all [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the thing is, the lamia can prolly move their upper body in very effective defensive ways [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Would the tail be considered like one giant thigh? [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and just, temporarily at least, tank snake-tail shots. [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Overland#3496 If you set them on fire it will make them sit still [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Overland#3496 So you can shoot them [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Nigga if you set them on fire it'd be like a fire hose gone wild [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 you kiddin' me [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 you'd be at risk of *accidentally* getting smashed [01-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Overland#3496 What about traps [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Overland#3496 They'd be susceptible to spike and barb traps [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 that being said [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Overland#3496 Imagine trying to get one out [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 fire from afar is still prolly effective [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and since they're in tunnels [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fire would be the worst way to kill lamia [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 fire in thoe would work [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Overland#3496 Bouncing Betties [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Shit nigga [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 more like not-bounce-at-all-betties [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Overland#3496 Mini Bouncing Betties that drill with a small motor into the tail and explode [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 since they'd step on the mine and it'd be about 30 seconds before they ultimately step off it. [01-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Overland#3496 That's fucking badass [01-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A lamia could potentially set off an AT mine [01-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Overland#3496 Bouncing Betty drills are going into the document [01-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm.... 1,500 pounds spread out across, let's call it.... 15 feet of the main weight-supporting section of tail. [01-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 that's 100 pounds per foot of lamia, actually. I think, anyway. Yeah. [01-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Prolly works out to be like uh [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe half the foot-pressure a GI would have. [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Overland#3496 Oh my god [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Overland#3496 Barbed wire [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Overland#3496 Yes [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Overland#3496 Anti lamia wire [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Really extra sharp barbed wire [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So wait [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Would a lamia be able to cross mine without setting them off? [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Overland#3496 Imagine how difficult it would be to untangle one [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia have a very light, uhm, [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 not step exactly but [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 there's a word for it they use in tank shit... [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not so much pressure [01-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ground pressure something something. [01-Oct-20 10:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but yeah, very light. I doubt light enough to *not* set off anti personnel mines [01-Oct-20 10:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said [01-Oct-20 10:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 mines that require the user to step *off*? [01-Oct-20 10:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia can probably get past one without it actually being lethal to them. [01-Oct-20 10:11 PM] Overland#3496 Makes sense Lamia mine clearers [01-Oct-20 10:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Click >Intense immediate fear >Realization that it didn't explode >Carefully slither forward so the clicker never actually gets un-pressed until the tip of your tail [01-Oct-20 10:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sure, your asshole gets blown off [01-Oct-20 10:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but you ain't dead [01-Oct-20 10:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >just swings tail out of the way [01-Oct-20 10:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh yeah, [01-Oct-20 10:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 might still sustain damage but [01-Oct-20 10:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Even less so [01-Oct-20 10:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 all that power moving that little tail tip? I bet Lamia could prolly do that. [01-Oct-20 10:13 PM] MandoSpam#7812 I imagine lizard parts like snake tails do re grow I'd imagine it'd be a slower process with a lamia [01-Oct-20 10:13 PM] MandoSpam#7812 Since they're much bigger and depending on the injury [01-Oct-20 10:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ehh, do snakes actually have that regrow ability [01-Oct-20 10:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Liggers, sure, I'll swallow that [01-Oct-20 10:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but snakes? [01-Oct-20 10:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said human fingers do regrow chunks of flesh WAY better than any other part of their bodies [01-Oct-20 10:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [01-Oct-20 10:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 maybe it's the same with lamia tails. [01-Oct-20 10:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe in a way? [01-Oct-20 10:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe not the complete tail [01-Oct-20 10:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But portions of it [01-Oct-20 10:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Tail-tips, I should have said. [01-Oct-20 10:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, [01-Oct-20 10:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >tfw you will never meet a Lamia Korean War grunt in a field hospital and treat her for frost bite and eventually marry her [01-Oct-20 10:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 There's unironically no point in becoming a doctor in this world. [01-Oct-20 10:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @instant ramen ^^^ [01-Oct-20 10:17 PM] MandoSpam#7812 I imagine in colder regions they would rely heavily on portable heat sources. [01-Oct-20 10:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >have to get pocket hand warmers for Lamia [01-Oct-20 10:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >about 100 packets per [01-Oct-20 10:18 PM] MandoSpam#7812 Or is that just giving lamias an unnecessary weakness. [01-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Going hunting with Lamia GF >She forgets her pocket warmers >Has to rush to Bass Pro and literally buy several fucking hundred pocket warmers [01-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Based snake GF [01-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine Lamia are mostly geared toward hotter or at least temperate climates. [01-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They don't do snow that well. [01-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That might be where their tunnels come in though. Make some under ground chimneys and such. [01-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Rely very heavily on subsistence hunting int hose cases [01-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they are only half cold blooded? [01-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They can regulate to a degree, but not well enough as a human [01-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm not sure I want the cold blooded thing generally. [01-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I like my snussy like I like my hot chocolate in winter [01-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 steaming fucking hot [01-Oct-20 10:21 PM] MandoSpam#7812 I was thinking of monster mesume a little bit in regards to the temp thing. Although maybe not as exaggerated as that maybe they just generally don't like the cold. [01-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not liking the cold would be fun [01-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 OOOHHH [01-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I think I'd have it be where they are just very biologically geared toward and quite biologically capable of dealing with excess heat, but not nearly as well suited for cold. [01-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 THE TAIL GETS CRAMPS IN THE COLD [01-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So in hot areas their uhhhh washu call it. [01-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Their uhm... the food-thing. What's that called. [01-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What's the process of how efficiently your body processes food called. [01-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Metabolism? [01-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ohhh [01-Oct-20 10:22 PM] MandoSpam#7812 I'm fairly certain they would like Saunas very much. [01-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What if they had a slower metabolism? [01-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That's the one. Memetabolism slows down in the heat, since they don't need to heat their bodies nearly as much. Just lay on a sunning rock, shut down for an hour or so, let your body digest the 17,000 fucking calorie meal you just ate [01-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Keeps them from expending so many calories, but also makes them a little colder [01-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, a slower metabolism would mean they wouldn't have nearly as much energy generally [01-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 which is a problem if they're as active as humans, which, for many many reasons, I'dw ant them to me. [01-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well. Active as humans minus the typical mid day naps. [01-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They’d still have roughly the same amount of energy [01-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, that still turns around to the issue of them being colder to the touch, which ain't pleasant. Imagine going to buy a sushi wrap from the store and taking it back home to fuck. [01-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :unnerved: [01-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I like the idea of Lamia long johns [01-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 that are just one giant sock. [01-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 There better be an image for this [01-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was making a sandwich and a phrase came to mind [01-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Snake milk" [01-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm. [01-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snake milk? [01-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 W-would they... [01-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like a platypus? [01-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 w-wait what [01-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 what does a platypus do [01-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ||The answer is "They don't do much"|| [01-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A platypus? [01-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 yeah [01-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 platypus milk pill me [01-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761462411353391104/image0.png [01-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 PERRY THE PLATYPUS?!?! [01-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But yeah platypus lay eggs and produce milk [01-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 [01-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 yes [01-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 much like Lamia [01-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia are platypus [01-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Egg laying mammals [01-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Makes sense because they are also warm blooded [01-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 After this sandwich I will be reading Farm Reports on Vietnam because I have autism [01-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ahhh [01-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 See if it would be able to sustain [01-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 yeee [01-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm. [01-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 " Early History of Agriculture in Vietnam In the 1st century, furrowing with iron ploughshares on wingploughs drawn by oxen or water buffaloes gradually replaced cultivation in burned out clearings. In particular, hydraulic works, canals and dykes ensured control over water; the use of fertilizer facilitated intensive farming, the practice of growing two crops a year on well-irrigated fields for example. The growing of tubers such as sweet potato, sugarcane and mulberry was already known, as well as various vegetables and fruit trees. Mulberry growing and silkworm raising took pride of place; there was also betel, areca-nut trees, medicinal plants, bamboo and rattan, which supplied raw materials for basket making. From the earliest centuries, there was thus a diversified agriculture which, gradually improved, would last for a very long time. ~ " [01-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia could be good at basket weaving. [01-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, as an aside, let's talk about Lamia swimming speed. Anacondas move at a certain speed, but they swim a hell of a lot better [01-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia could swim fast [01-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Very fast [01-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also [01-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What if they grew lots of sugar? [01-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 10 MPH. So Lamia could do what, 20 MPH in the water? Their average swim speed is way faster than our top sprint speed [01-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sugar is very calorie dense [01-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It is. Though would that be very palatable? And is it, ultimately, an efficient crop when you consider your calorie-yields yearly? [01-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Perhaps [01-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe it grows very fast where they live? [01-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like bamboo does? [01-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmmm... Bamboo cane. [01-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Bamboo cane [01-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sugar Bamboo.. [01-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not as much sugar, but grows much faster [01-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Could also be ground into a starch to make breads [01-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Very sugary, calorie dense breads [01-Oct-20 10:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ` Rural Vietnam has traditionally been left on its own. There is often repeated old saying: "The emperor's authority stop's at the village gate." The word emperor could also be replace the French colonial government and the current Communist government. ` {Reactions} itstime (3) [01-Oct-20 10:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 neat [01-Oct-20 10:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, starch would be preferable. Imagine all those cavities otherwise. [01-Oct-20 10:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [01-Oct-20 10:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Starchboo [01-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like a very fast growing wheat [01-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Apparently sweet potatoes are super space efficient [01-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 70,000 calories per hectare per day. [01-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 double what wheat's capable of [01-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oh shit [01-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sweet potatoes it is [01-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sweet potatoes, rice, sugar cane, and also cash crop type shit like coffee [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Prolly raise pigs for slaughter and do a lot of fishing. [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I was just going to say main source of protein would most likely be fish [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Pigs work as well [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Eat all the leftover produce scraps [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe chickens for eggs and since they grow quick [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Asians generally, as far as I understand, absolutely love egg [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Only thing I can’t see is cows [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Absolutely fucking love it, culinary...ly. [01-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, though... [01-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Water buffalo are big beasts of burden in Vietnam. [01-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Even today they're used to till rice fields [01-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oh definitely [01-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 An alright source of beef, if one's getting too old and suc. [01-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Can you milk a water buffalo? [01-Oct-20 11:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 `Water Buffalo milk is the most nutritious milk available for human consumption. It is 100% A2/A2 milk, which means that is less allergenic than A1 milk, it has double the Protein, double the Calcium, 40% more nutrients and it has half the Cholesterol than cow's milk.` [01-Oct-20 11:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Well that’s a good answer {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/761468690822201374/image0.jpg [01-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sweet potatoes give 70k calories a day and rice paddies give 49 [01-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 sweet potatoes give 1 unit of protein, whatever the fuck that is, whre as rice gives 0.9 [01-Oct-20 11:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Seems like rice is sort of a luxury crop compared to sweet potatoes tbh. [01-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 'course, that's all info from the mid 80's [01-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 US info, which I think was the top source for this kinda then then [01-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but still 80's. Eh, prolly accurate. [01-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Apparently 1 hectare is 2.4 acres [01-Oct-20 11:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So 1 acre of sweet potato farming gives you.. 29,160 calories a day, give or take. [01-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah, sweet potatoes would be good to love on for them compared to rice [01-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe the rice is their selling crop? [01-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So one acre can feed 1 adult Lamia and probably also a child Lamia, with sweet potatoes, per day. [01-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Luxury lamia rice? [01-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >1 acre to feed a single adult lamia a day [01-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Bruh [01-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, [01-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 1.7 adult lamias. [01-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 These numbers ain't small that's for sure. [01-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How good is fish and other catchable animals are providing calories? [01-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Meat has higher calories [01-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So does dairy [01-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I guess lamias will drink a fucking huge amount of milk [01-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Milk truck snake wife. [01-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, maybe they supplement their farm shit with a lot of fish. Sweet potato dishes, rice dishes, and fish dishes. [01-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah, you also have the many meats [01-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And eggs [01-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lots of eggs [01-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also [01-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 We are dealing with earth stuff [01-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe there is a lot more fankasia stuff that is good at providing creatures like this the calories they need to survive [01-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because if they can get this big [01-Oct-20 11:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Logically there is a good enough food source to allow that [01-Oct-20 11:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Prolly have their own type of fermented fish sauce. Something with nuttier flavoring than normal fish sauces. Nuttier, grainier, maybe. [01-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I say nuttier and grainier because mice and rodents absolutely love nuts, and snakes absolutely love rodents, so I figure they would have a very distant somewhat instinctual taste for nutty flavor on meats [01-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :happyharpy: [01-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [01-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Mouse fish? [01-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >fankasia shit yee. Some sort of plant native to Vietlamia. [01-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh.... Hmm. [01-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmmm... [01-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sweet potato but beeg [01-Oct-20 11:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe they leave their rice paddies to fallow every year or two, and let the water sit and evaporate over time, leaving occasional puddles [01-Oct-20 11:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and let the field and the remaining plants get over run with mice fish, which they then catch en masse and cook like you would dove. [01-Oct-20 11:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Family events similar to jackrabbit stomping shit [01-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 where they converge to the center of the field, catching everything they can. [01-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said, [01-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 mabye not. [01-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But, for sure, [01-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 nutty fish sauces. [01-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fallow? [01-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What is that? [01-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh [01-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's like leaving your field to just sit around and let nature take over for a few seasons or a whole year [01-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and then afterward it may or may not be burned, [01-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but at the least is now healthier for your next crop. [01-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah, I see [01-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That [01-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not sure if it's applicable to Vietnam's, uh, climate though. [01-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Might be. [01-Oct-20 11:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I feel like it's more common to have two eggs than it is for humans to have to kids in one pregnancy [01-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe a fair bit more common. 1 in every 4th pregnancy doing so, maybe. [01-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But an equally low chance as humans for the kids to be identical twins. [01-Oct-20 11:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 https://i.imgur.com/xC4Y7lT.gif {Embed} https://imgur.com/xC4Y7lT https://i.imgur.com/xC4Y7lT.gif {Reactions} ❤️ (4) [01-Oct-20 11:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Imagine a poor lamia girl trying to skate [01-Oct-20 11:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 She'd need like [01-Oct-20 11:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 fuckin' 10 skateboards to support her weight [01-Oct-20 11:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Separate from that, the Lamia in Vietlamia could also do fish farming. Harvest local surface shit that fish like to eat, throw it in a man made pond with a bunch of said fish, do it once every day or two for 6 months [01-Oct-20 11:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and bam, you've got a lot of fish that can be harvested. [01-Oct-20 11:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 For areas that aren't close enough to large rivers to warrant fishing. [02-Oct-20 12:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael Do the Lamia do much ancestor worship? Also how big are the human parts of Lamia? [02-Oct-20 01:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >I feel like it's more common to have two eggs than it is for humans to have to kids in one pregnancy @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I like that, 1/4 seems like a good number. [02-Oct-20 01:16 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also yes the fish farming would work well [02-Oct-20 01:16 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Could easily get a lot of fish that way very easily, without worrying if the seasons catch will do well [02-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d like to think lamias would be partial to ice skating since they wouldn’t have to put on skates, but they also hate the cold. [02-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d say Lamias probably do something similar to the h*spanics with ancestor worship [02-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I wonder if their snake parts wpuld slide well evebn [02-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Put up the little shrine for the day of the dead [02-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Set them out gifts and candles [02-Oct-20 01:18 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe that could be part of one of their festivals? [02-Oct-20 01:18 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Howssat tie into their emperor? Worship of their own ancestors, but also worship of the white snake [02-Oct-20 01:18 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Worshipping their ancestors since they are now with the white snake and meeting him [02-Oct-20 01:18 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Since they are all descended from that white snake [02-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Dassa thing, they're all from him but his proper descendents are the royal niggas. [02-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [02-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So it's like a uh [02-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe instead of direct descendants [02-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More like cousins? [02-Oct-20 01:22 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Over God who is worshiped, the King whomst is a demigod in effect, and the individual's ancestors [02-Oct-20 01:22 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. [02-Oct-20 01:22 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Distant spawn of the white snake. [02-Oct-20 01:23 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Do they have temples and a religious functionary caste? [02-Oct-20 01:24 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe in the big kingdoms? [02-Oct-20 01:24 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I don’t think it would be too organized [02-Oct-20 01:25 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Much like big government, they probably wouldn’t like the church stepping in on what they are doing [02-Oct-20 01:25 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe each family had a small altar set up at home? [02-Oct-20 01:25 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, I was thinking Vietlamia would be one Kingdom and any Lamia outsife may or may not subscribe to whitesnake monthly (tm) [02-Oct-20 01:28 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, on these Lamia familial estates, what surface structures would there be? In big families, prolly a bunch of sunning rocks for starters. Would they be all clumped together or scattered around for privacy tho? [02-Oct-20 01:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Eh, I was thinking Vietlamia would be one Kingdom and any Lamia outsife may or may not subscribe to whitesnake monthly (tm) @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit explain more? [02-Oct-20 01:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [02-Oct-20 01:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a bit of space in between [02-Oct-20 01:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Where each lamia could easily pass by without issue [02-Oct-20 01:29 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Vietlamia's got one King, Lamia from outside Vietlamia may or may not view the King as divine, and may or may not worship the white snake [02-Oct-20 01:29 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 As opposed to niggas in Vietlamia whomst are p. much all on board [02-Oct-20 01:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ahhh [02-Oct-20 01:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I see [02-Oct-20 01:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe, but would they want more privacy than that while sunning? [02-Oct-20 01:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like their own private sunning areas? [02-Oct-20 01:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably depends on the family imo [02-Oct-20 01:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Some might take time to communally sun as a group [02-Oct-20 01:30 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe sometime after their huge meal [02-Oct-20 01:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Others might have their own little sun spot that they personally select to be out of the way for some privacy and personal time [02-Oct-20 01:31 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not too private, and not truly private, but more private than rocks as close as bus seats [02-Oct-20 01:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like park benches. Intentionally spread out, but free to use [02-Oct-20 01:34 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah, yes [02-Oct-20 01:34 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s a good comparison [02-Oct-20 01:34 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Some parks benches are closer, other arent [02-Oct-20 01:34 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How do they handle outsiders? I imagine theres two levels. Outsiders they know, like neighbours a short or moderate distance away, and outsiders they dont know at all. [02-Oct-20 01:35 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And what do they think about humans specifically? [02-Oct-20 01:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They probably greet their neighbors in a slightly friendly fashion [02-Oct-20 01:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wave, say hi, maybe a little small talk [02-Oct-20 01:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But not much else [02-Oct-20 01:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They probably great true outsider with just a nod or say “hello”, but not much else [02-Oct-20 01:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably very intrigued by humans due to our “tendencies” and whatnot [02-Oct-20 01:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Our behaviors [02-Oct-20 01:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Trying to befriend/woo any creature we come across [02-Oct-20 01:41 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That avid the whole looking like then but with legs thing. Do Lamia have pointy ears or human ears? [02-Oct-20 01:42 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :kitty: [02-Oct-20 01:42 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Now this is important [02-Oct-20 01:42 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I say [02-Oct-20 01:42 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Pointy [02-Oct-20 01:42 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But not sensitive like elf ears [02-Oct-20 01:42 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And, traditionally, do they distrust outsiders? Do they dislike them being around or not care much? How would Lamia respond to someone accidentally walkinf onto their land? [02-Oct-20 01:45 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d say slightly distrust, yes [02-Oct-20 01:45 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe dislike them being around [02-Oct-20 01:45 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How do individualist tendencies and autism effect things like that? Where in life does their no step on snek instinct extend [02-Oct-20 01:45 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “Don’t take my bread gubberment” style [02-Oct-20 01:45 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe it comes from a fear of raiders stealing their food, which they need a lot of to survive [02-Oct-20 01:46 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If someone accidentally walked on their land they would probably tell them to fuck off [02-Oct-20 01:46 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If it happened a second time though [02-Oct-20 01:46 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [02-Oct-20 01:47 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would they be bean about it and the great offense due to that protective instinct or would they be understanding? [02-Oct-20 01:48 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I like the idea that their local elected sheriff is also their regional representative to the King's government. [02-Oct-20 01:52 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 When doing business dealings they probably really prefer getting to know the person than being swayed wholely by their arguments. Find faceless corporations and to a lesser extent outsiders quite unappealing. Trust has to be earned, often times over a long period. S'why traders in Vietlamia don't modify they're routes all that much, it's harder to do effective trade with new clientele. {Reactions} itstime (2) [02-Oct-20 01:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Understanding the first time, but the times after would feel intentional [02-Oct-20 01:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [02-Oct-20 01:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me” [02-Oct-20 01:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ahhh [02-Oct-20 01:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [02-Oct-20 01:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like that second part [02-Oct-20 01:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The trust aspect [02-Oct-20 05:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael I feel like Lamia culture could be fleshed out further. Like how this don't-tread-on-me thing actually works in practice. Is that purely cultural, or is there a biological impulse for them to feel that way also? [02-Oct-20 06:00 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Alright I wrote down mostly everything that I've read so far and Id like to get what I have corrected if possible. [02-Oct-20 06:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I think it would be more culturally ingrained to keep their family safe and supplied so they have enough food and stuff to survive [02-Oct-20 06:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, which aspects would be instinctual rather than cultural? [02-Oct-20 06:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 There's the egg-crazy thing. [02-Oct-20 06:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The egg crazy [02-Oct-20 06:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That's natural, for sure. [02-Oct-20 06:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Culturally being more keeping to the self [02-Oct-20 06:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [02-Oct-20 06:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The being underground thing seems like it'd be somewhat natural. [02-Oct-20 06:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sunning, somewhat natural. [02-Oct-20 06:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [02-Oct-20 06:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More so it was natural then became cultural [02-Oct-20 06:10 PM] Wargunlock#0868 (pinned) Lamias are.... >Not Very social >Like being alone, with family unites and selected close friends >Do not like talking with neighbors or chit chat in general >Traditionally live in Jungles with soft clay soil that they use to build their underground family villas >Like living in tunnels and close cave systems. >Typically eat only one very large meal a day and then take a nap, usually eating during noontime. >Festivals are culturaly mandated and are great places to meet other Lamias >Lamias usually begin courtship during these festivals or at least are introduced to potential suitors during these festivals >The parents usually pick favorites and coerce the children into marrying their favorite, usually keeping in mind their childs wishes. >Lamias have two tables, one for their family and one for any potential guests (A rare occurance to be sure, as they are not a welcoming people) [02-Oct-20 06:11 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Did I miss anything or does that cover it? [02-Oct-20 06:12 PM] [NoNameGiven]#3446 @GranadaWasNotEnough [02-Oct-20 06:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think that about covers it.... [02-Oct-20 06:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Very good wargun [02-Oct-20 06:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Prolly somewhere between 1,100 on the very very low end for a healthy adult Lamia and 1,700 being the highest, with 1,500 being average. [02-Oct-20 06:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That was a lot to go through [02-Oct-20 06:15 PM] Wargunlock#0868 I plan on doing these recaps just to make everything that much easier. [02-Oct-20 06:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Idunno, let's go back over that chitchat thing. What was the gist of how you thought on that, Harpy-kun? [02-Oct-20 06:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They don’t like many conversations with outsiders [02-Oct-20 06:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not much talking [02-Oct-20 06:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a “hello” or a wave but that’s it [02-Oct-20 06:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How's that work with the family bordering theirs, for instance? And why? Is it considered rude? Or do they consider stuff like that just inviting trouble? [02-Oct-20 06:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Those would be their neighbors [02-Oct-20 06:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a little more chit chat [02-Oct-20 06:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Weather, how’s the kids, how’s the harvest, etc [02-Oct-20 06:17 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Let me know when to update the "Lamias are...." post after you are content with how Lamias are fleshed out. [02-Oct-20 06:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It'll be a while, I feel. A lot of problems arise when you turn things upside down and shake them. [02-Oct-20 06:19 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Moff and I made some Lore about Fankasia Asia being a total fucking hellhole full of dinosaurs, strong ass dragons and onis. Theres a lot of valuable ore, lumbers and other sorts of materials that people want to use to make shit with, Like the snails used to make purple dye or Rosewood harvested from the amazon people cant have enough of the shit there. [02-Oct-20 06:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Asiapill me. [02-Oct-20 06:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Perhaps in VC, for speed. [02-Oct-20 06:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >more chit chat with neighbors >How's X Sounds like a fair bit more, then. Where's the line drawn? What would happen if someone who wasn't particularly special or interesting to the Lamia was walking around Vietlamia and tried to make a lil' conversation with a Lamia doing some task on the edge of her property? Blank stares? Requests to stop talking with her? Anger? Suspicion? Fear, perhaps? [02-Oct-20 06:23 PM] Wargunlock#0868 KKK [02-Oct-20 06:23 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Hold on lemme get my headphones on [02-Oct-20 06:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael Wargun told me that Asia's full of dragons. Maybe the white snake had some dragon killing aspect to him. [02-Oct-20 06:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like the sound of that [02-Oct-20 06:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Apparently Asia's so lousy with them because there isn't that much in the way of civilization, and Dragons view it as a nice place to lay their giant egg hoards [02-Oct-20 06:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And every once in a while a dragon egg hatches unexpectedly and goes to wreck shit because it's basically retarded. [02-Oct-20 06:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >the white snake went around eating the eggs [02-Oct-20 06:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, with Vietlamia being a Monarchy, and having some semblance of nationhood, you'd think that baby dragons might be a problem for it. [02-Oct-20 06:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yes. [02-Oct-20 06:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would he be some sort of trickster...? Hmm. Or like [02-Oct-20 06:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe has a lot of Stealth aspects to him. [02-Oct-20 06:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Stealth feels snake-y. [02-Oct-20 06:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Stealthy, but not trickster [02-Oct-20 06:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Quiet [02-Oct-20 06:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Apparently Asia has a lot of Adamantium, one of the only places to get it, so that's cool. [02-Oct-20 06:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Fankasia-asia, anyway. [02-Oct-20 06:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe that’s why they are also more isolated? [02-Oct-20 06:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because the white snake was a loner? [02-Oct-20 06:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or something like that? [02-Oct-20 06:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh. [02-Oct-20 06:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 He also says Asia has a shitload of literal dinosaurs and shit. Megafauna, as it were. [02-Oct-20 06:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Great for hunting for food, I'd suppose. [02-Oct-20 06:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Easier to kill one giant thing than 5 elk per day, I'd suppose. [02-Oct-20 07:00 PM] Wargunlock#0868 @mothman Catboy, get back online and check this out. [02-Oct-20 07:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Talkin' with Wargun-kun, was thinkin' Lamia don't do slavery at all. Like we discussed before, they don't even really do jail, and do house arrest type shit instead, with various restrictions on that. [02-Oct-20 07:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe some sort of willing indentured servitude, *maybe*, but ehh. Think' on that more some time. [02-Oct-20 07:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I agree with that [02-Oct-20 07:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They wouldn’t like hired help much [02-Oct-20 07:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because “Muh outsiders” [02-Oct-20 07:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael Ayy, tell me about the human half of Lamia. [02-Oct-20 07:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They're 20 or 30 percent bigger in their human section, right? I'm talkin' to Wargun-kun and he's asking. [02-Oct-20 07:39 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Lamias are....(part.2) >Female Lamias take potential suitors on "Hunting dates", Whether it be fishing or hunting, when they really like the person. Something something, im getting calories with you. >Lamia society is run by a government with strong religious influence or by a united ethnic tribal situation or something. >Lamia women get very hungry during pregnancy, they lay eggs and it takes 4-6 months for them to be hatched. >Lamia women get VERY defensive after pregnancy, going so far as to wall themselves off or make a defensive entrenched position around their clutch of eggs/babies. >Lamia eggs hatch two to three months after being born. They usually lay one egg but have a 25% chance to lay two eggs instead. >Lamias are experts in stonecarving, polishing and waxmaking. >Lamias houses are very well designed to take into account drainage problems, having all moisture or rain runoff directed to a massive cistern somewhere found at the very lowest level of the house. >The Average Lamia is between 15-20 feet long, the largest and smallest being anywhere from 25 feet long or 10 feet "Small". >Lamias weight a lot, on the low end weighing as "little" as 1100lbs to 1700lbs being the highest, with 1500lbs being average weight. >Lamias have to eat a ton of calories (17000 Calories) in a day. >Lamias have pointy ears and sharper than normal teeth. >They are quite strong due to their massive form. [02-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Wargunlock Something I wanted to mention to you about Lamia... Remembered it earlier while taking a piss, but forgot it now. [03-Oct-20 01:35 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit about 20-30% bigger than a human? I would say so. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [03-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael Lamia Culture. I think more can be done there. 'Figure out their quirks and such. [03-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think so as well [03-Oct-20 07:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Guns [03-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What type of guns do they like? [03-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And why? [03-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I know the rattler liked the Gatling [03-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But that was more the personal autism [03-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Idk about guns but maybe they use blowguns traditionally [03-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, she was certainly autistic on that front. [03-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Shotguns for ranching? [03-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So maybe they'd find a way to make poisonous munitions? [03-Oct-20 07:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, that reminds me, we should consider Lamia venom and how that whole thing could work. Do they just not have Venom? That's fine with me, but [03-Oct-20 07:50 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Since they're snakes it would fit [03-Oct-20 07:50 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe only the Rattlers have venom? [03-Oct-20 07:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, maybe, but why rattlers? That would also make handling your rattler offspring rather difficult I'd imagine. [03-Oct-20 07:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe it's paralyzation venom more than kill-y venom. [03-Oct-20 07:51 PM] mothman#1742 are teiflings in fanksia only red ? [03-Oct-20 07:51 PM] mothman#1742 or do they come in other colors ? [03-Oct-20 07:51 PM] mothman#1742 i need this for the doc [03-Oct-20 07:51 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Handling offspring would be hard? Only have venom production begin once they mature [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit @Bob_the_Builder what if they use this but with a poison in it? Literal snake shot {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762145027370647552/image0.jpg [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @mothman many many other colors [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Maybe yeah [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 high tech. [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] mothman#1742 ok [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] mothman#1742 thans=ks [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 THough, that capsule isn't actually fired in rat shot, I don't think. [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I think that's like some autistic over-wad, of sorts [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Bob_the_Builder baby snakes of all types have venom [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Even when born [03-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What, in real life? [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 iirc yes [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 As in Anaconda babies have venom? [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 No like [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If they are venomous [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 In fact [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Unlikely to kill instantly but almost guaranteed to kill, you can't recover from a poisoned munition like you can from a bullet wound (unless you have an antidote) [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >What type of guns do they like A good shotgun has traditionally been both a great ranch gun, *and* very cheap to initially purchase. I think maybe also cheap to shoot historically though I'm not sure on that one. [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Baby snakes are more dangerous, because instead of using a little venom they dump their entire gland into whatever they first bite [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] mothman#1742 baby snakes are based retards [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ^^^ [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ^ [03-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Funky little guys [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Pretty much mag dump and run away [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Venom has advantages if they're a more patient kind of predator [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] mothman#1742 now that i think of it, would lamias have the fangs and the glands for venom ? [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] mothman#1742 depending on the species [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s a good point [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Do they have fangs? [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s why I was proposing the rattlers have the venom [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Poison the target and wait for it to die Kinda like a komodo dragon but from farther away [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because most snakes aren’t venomous [03-Oct-20 07:54 PM] mothman#1742 well other beast-people have different teeth from humans, so i would assume they do [03-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 They can just use venom from actual snakes Maybe they have an affinity with snakes since they're snake people themselves, maybe they have a similar odor to snakes or whatever [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Perhaps regular lamia saliva contains an anesthetic? [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Vietlamia hunting shotgun {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762146069575630858/unknown.png [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 They could use blowguns and crossbows and shit to shoot poison darts [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] mothman#1742 oh wait [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Induces numbness? [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Do they have fangs I talked with Wargun about this [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] mothman#1742 what if instead of the fangs, they are like kammodo dragons [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhh [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] mothman#1742 like their saliva has the venom [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and said that Lamia have longer canine's than human beings, but that's it. [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The double barrel aesthetic is dope [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So just a paralysing poison? [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] mothman#1742 if they are that type [03-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Paralyzing is good [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I like the idea of it being Paralyzing posion, yeah. [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Komodo dragons were mostly just bacteria I thought [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Kinda like a cat [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] mothman#1742 i mean like that [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More like the saliva has the evolutionary leftovers in it [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Fangs are cool tho [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] mothman#1742 like the saliva has t instead of fnags [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A bite would slow a person [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] mothman#1742 its just an idea [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said I don't really want my wife to have sharp teeth. Maybe only the really poisonous-ass ones have that? [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] mothman#1742 in case fangs dont fit [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] TwoFactor#6270 i'd reckon lamias don't have venom because there's not enough space in a humanoid head to have poison glands unless it's located somewhere else {Reactions} you [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hence the rattler ones having it [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] mothman#1742 oh yeah [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >evolutionary leftovers of it Interesting, but wouldn't that make kissing pretty unpleasant? [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Slowly paralysing poisons are a thing irl [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @TwoFactor that’s a very good point [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] mothman#1742 maybe the glands are really small and cant really kill if they use it [03-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snakes don’t have human heads [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] mothman#1742 like behind the cheeks [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit kissing a lamia numbs your lips [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 They really suck because you slowly go numb from the point of contact until it reaches your lungs and you suffocate [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] mothman#1742 bruh moment [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] mothman#1742 the horny kills [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sacrifices must be made for snake wife [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yes. [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] mothman#1742 :salute: [03-Oct-20 07:58 PM] mothman#1742 F [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >get burger from rude lamia at McDonald’s >tfw I get paralyzed from when she spit in it and crash my car [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] mothman#1742 he died as he lived [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] mothman#1742 horny [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 If you got a blowjob from a snake which wanted to kill you your dick would go numb first So not worth it in the slightest [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hell yeha br0ther. [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 oof. [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] TwoFactor#6270 hey maybe the poison glands are in the neck and poisonous lamias have something that looks like an adam's apple [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also oof. [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] mothman#1742 well i assume this is only with lamias that have the snake linage of snakes with venom [03-Oct-20 07:59 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Plenty of time to stop being horny between your dick no longer feeling and your lungs not working anymore [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] mothman#1742 like a boa lamia wouldnt have it [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The only time I'm not going to be horny is immediately after impregnating my snake wife [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and even then, only for a little while. [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 You'd just die sad and blueballed [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] mothman#1742 lmao [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] mothman#1742 the ultimate cuck [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >hey maybe the poison glands are in the neck and poisonous lamias have something that looks like an adam's apple @TwoFactor that’s not a bad idea [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] mothman#1742 i'm fucking dying right now [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] mothman#1742 MEDIC [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 That's if you get poisoned [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So just don't [03-Oct-20 08:00 PM] Vape#6221 I NEED A MEDIC BAG [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Vape#6221 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] TwoFactor#6270 "just don't get poisoned bro" [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I assume the glands in their mouths can be controlled [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] TwoFactor#6270 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM DYING [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] mothman#1742 :sex: [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, probably. [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Could just be that regular lamias aren’t poisonous [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] mothman#1742 yeah [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Most likely, yeah [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. Rattlers maybe, but it's quite controllable, and even then maybe it's more like a uhhh [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Literal kiss of death [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 vestigial thing. [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Vape#6221 the more isolated from society it is, the more poisonous it becomes [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] TwoFactor#6270 well, lamias are mostly snakes and snakes are rarely poisonous [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] mothman#1742 more likely to die by a lamia constricting you like a boa [03-Oct-20 08:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamias employing poisons they've made with shit though, that sounds nice. [03-Oct-20 08:02 PM] mothman#1742 yee [03-Oct-20 08:02 PM] mothman#1742 venom ratshot [03-Oct-20 08:02 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Enjoy your organs rupturing and your ribs stabbing into your lungs [03-Oct-20 08:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit like the real Vietnamese [03-Oct-20 08:02 PM] TwoFactor#6270 actually if you got poisoned by a lamia kiss that was probably not an accident because vipers control when they release their venom {Reactions} Jerry [03-Oct-20 08:03 PM] TwoFactor#6270 they are not like komodos that just have that shit in they mouths all the time [03-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Vape#6221 she prolly noticed you were a coomer [03-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >affinity for snakes Na, Harpy and I talked about that and the decision then at least was that Lamia look at them like they're really weird. Like how we might look at Monkeys or something. [03-Oct-20 08:03 PM] mothman#1742 ook eek [03-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I think usage of poisons in war would make a lot of sense for snake people thematically [03-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It would. Traditionally, at the least. [03-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Monkeys are bros tho [03-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 We get along decently with monkeys [03-Oct-20 08:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah but [03-Oct-20 08:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 You wouldn’t pop up to a monkey and be like “hello there, allow me to worship you” [03-Oct-20 08:04 PM] mothman#1742 jamie bring that up [03-Oct-20 08:04 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Lamias prob wouldn't eat snake meat just like we don't eat monkeys (unless we're Brazilians) But they could have snake or lizard pets [03-Oct-20 08:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If you came across a money you’d be like “alright, monkey” [03-Oct-20 08:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'd want to get away because it might throw it's shit at me [03-Oct-20 08:05 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Raise snakes and extract venom [03-Oct-20 08:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And you can imagine as a lamia where it takes time to move your snake-parts around, it might give the snake ample time to sink it's teeth into their under sides. [03-Oct-20 08:06 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Pet monkeys are a thing [03-Oct-20 08:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. [03-Oct-20 08:06 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Snakes can move and react pretty quickly [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] mothman#1742 lamias would be fucking scary in reality [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Scary but really cool [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] mothman#1742 being so big but able to move so fluidly and fast [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 And it would make sense for lamias to be poison resistant Since many of them produce poison themselves [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like an orca [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] mothman#1742 yeah [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] mothman#1742 like an orca [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, I don't think snakes are resistant to venom despite producing it. [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Lamias would be heavy as shit [03-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also yes, we've calculated this. [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They also need a massive amount of calories per day. [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Roughly 17,000-ish [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Would a pickup truck even be enough? [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yes. [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Though my own personal car would not. [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They weigh about 1,100-1,500 [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, most elevators are only rated for like... ehhh... [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 2,000-ish pounds [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Meaning like [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also snakes aren’t immune to their own venom [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Also, are they hot or cold blooded [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 One normal sized lamia and one or two other people. [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And lots of snakes don’t have venom [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hot blooded [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like platypus [03-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Egg laying mammal [03-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 The tail is hot blooded too? [03-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >1,100 - 1,500 I think it was higher than that, with 1,100 being fairly immature non-adult ones and such. [03-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yee [03-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yes. [03-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Ok [03-Oct-20 08:09 PM] mothman#1742 hot blodded because they technically arent snakes, they are people with snake features [03-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Kinda, yeah. [03-Oct-20 08:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >hot blodded because they technically arent snakes, they are people with snake features @mothman yes, people with snake features. Exactly that. [03-Oct-20 08:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They also do the whole sunning on rocks thing, they're big fans of that. The idea is that there are several aspects of their snake heritage that are still within their lizard brains [03-Oct-20 08:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So they dislike cold food more than humans do, they have an affinity for food that's moving, so cooked octopus and certain other things [03-Oct-20 08:10 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Most of them is technically snake You could say that they're more snake than human mass size, but they have most of what constitutes a human (abdomen, torso, head, arms and all the squishy bits inside) [03-Oct-20 08:10 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So they're closer to humans than snakes I guess? [03-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Kinda. I mean, they do lay eggs, so [03-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The only human subspecies that does that are niggers [03-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Mostly just humans with snake "legs" And a different reproductive method [03-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Like harpies I guess [03-Oct-20 08:11 PM] mothman#1742 well not all snakes and reptiles lay eggs either [03-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 In a way, yes [03-Oct-20 08:11 PM] mothman#1742 lots of snakes give live brith [03-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And rattler lamia give live birth [03-Oct-20 08:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Rattlers g- yeah [03-Oct-20 08:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They're somewhat based. [03-Oct-20 08:12 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 You'd need two dicks to pry that pussy open and that would be gay unless both dicks are yours So snussy is homo in most cases, unless you brought a crowbar [03-Oct-20 08:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Chimbo-kun, you've yet to read *t h e s n u s s y f i l e s* [03-Oct-20 08:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Do you have any questions about Lamia? [03-Oct-20 08:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also [03-Oct-20 08:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I can’t remember which story [03-Oct-20 08:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But in a Story it said that ||male lamia have hemipenes|| [03-Oct-20 08:13 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Anyways Vietnam is scary [03-Oct-20 08:13 PM] mothman#1742 that makes sense though harpy [03-Oct-20 08:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 More like Hemi||cringe|| [03-Oct-20 08:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It was used for a joke [03-Oct-20 08:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But they have it [03-Oct-20 08:14 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Which story [03-Oct-20 08:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In that at least. Moffman being the other side of the shitposting-coin from Overland aside, I don't think I'd want that to be the lore for these guys, even if you drop any of my lewd motivations. [03-Oct-20 08:14 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I don't remember lamias being written much about before [03-Oct-20 08:14 PM] mothman#1742 CHOWDER, THIS SNUSSY GOT ME ACTING STRANGE [03-Oct-20 08:14 PM] MandoSpam#7812 YES [03-Oct-20 08:15 PM] mothman#1742 i kid [03-Oct-20 08:15 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Snake scales feel all oily and shit despite being dry It's weird [03-Oct-20 08:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Smooth [03-Oct-20 08:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Bob_the_Builder I can’t remember which story, but it was an early one. [03-Oct-20 08:15 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 But they're not cold in this case [03-Oct-20 08:15 PM] TwoFactor#6270 GORGE, IMMA ENTER THIS PIT VIPER'S PIT CONSTRICT MY COOM VEIN SNAKE MO- [gunshot] [03-Oct-20 08:15 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 That would be wack but prob not that terrible [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Chimbo-kun, you got any Lamia questions nigga? Since you've ||yet to read the Snussy lore your mind might go somewhere ours haven't yet, ||which might be useful. [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] MandoSpam#7812 The risk is worth it. {Reactions} itstime (3) [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] mothman#1742 yeah snake scales feel really cold [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] mothman#1742 and smooth [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] TwoFactor#6270 they feel waxy [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] mothman#1742 yeah [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I don't want to write snussy lore that deals with actual snussy I'll leave that to more talented individuals [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] mothman#1742 not like you would expect at all [03-Oct-20 08:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Right, but [03-Oct-20 08:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 separate from the snussy itself, I'm saying. [03-Oct-20 08:17 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Idk I was mostly talking about the use of poisons in Lamia weapons (for both hunting and war) [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 And how that would be kinda cool [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh. Maybe some of the Lamia make venom and they sell it to other Lamia who like to use it. [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Kinda like being able to print your own money, in a sense. [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or, did traditionally, anyway. [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 They would make sense despite being weird [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In the more modern era in Vietlamia where niggas have actual guns they probably care less. [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they have a natural knack for making poisons? [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Could be. [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Yeah [03-Oct-20 08:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ~~kind of like Granada~~ [03-Oct-20 08:19 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 From plants, animals, etc [03-Oct-20 08:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That would be an interesting cultural aspect [03-Oct-20 08:19 PM] mothman#1742 snake grenade [03-Oct-20 08:19 PM] mothman#1742 snake grenade [03-Oct-20 08:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >mfw it comes out that Granada is actually a lamia {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762151975156449280/image0.jpg [03-Oct-20 08:20 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 If you hit, poison is almost guaranteed to kill You can't recover from poison like you can from a bullet wound [03-Oct-20 08:20 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 The problem is he delivery method [03-Oct-20 08:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Spiked punji pits around the land {Reactions} [03-Oct-20 08:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 To keep the gubberment out [03-Oct-20 08:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, we discussed previously that the Royal Lamias have a certain beautiful look to their scales. Very naturally shiny and lustrous, with colorations that are kind of rare, which influenced more well off non-Royal niggas to lacquer and wax their snake parts, which overall became a very big long-lasting fashion trend. [03-Oct-20 08:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And the fucking commies from taking their bread [03-Oct-20 08:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which, also, made them become some of the best in the world where it comes to wax making and polishing. [03-Oct-20 08:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Howmst might that influence things in their society in ways beyond just making themselves look good? [03-Oct-20 08:21 PM] mothman#1742 i put that on their tab in the primer [03-Oct-20 08:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Based. [03-Oct-20 08:22 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Flechettes either from blowguns or small crossbows would work but idk for guns You'd need a projectile that doesn't go right through Just coating a small caliber bullet in poison could work but you'd prob have to do it not too long before since it's on the surface of the bullet [03-Oct-20 08:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A good depiction of Royal blooded Lamia's snake parts. Very rich color but with a deep gloss and luster to it, almost like silk. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762152628066320394/latest.png {Reactions} GoldForTheKindStranger (2) [03-Oct-20 08:22 PM] mothman#1742 only races i have left to add are goblins and pale teiflings, then its done on the races unless i forgot any [03-Oct-20 08:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >idk for guns Eh, you kind of couldn't, for guns, in most cases. [03-Oct-20 08:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they use organic projectiles that can decay in a persons body? [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] mothman#1742 ooooh like a dart round ? [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They'd be better off sealing hollow point tips [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like bone darts [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or maybe wood? [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhhh [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] mothman#1742 like a flechette round [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] mothman#1742 but organic [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wood that has soaked in a poison [03-Oct-20 08:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But bone is also porous... [03-Oct-20 08:24 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Flechettes designed to break on impact? [03-Oct-20 08:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 AYYY [03-Oct-20 08:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 FISH BONE FLECHETTE ROUNDS [03-Oct-20 08:24 PM] mothman#1742 :excuseme: [03-Oct-20 08:24 PM] mothman#1742 jesus [03-Oct-20 08:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 also gives them something to do with the fish they catch [03-Oct-20 08:25 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Lamia are prob sadistic faggots [03-Oct-20 08:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 B-But flechettes not made of metal are likely to break like fuck in shotshells or anything really. Traditionally I could see them doing fish bone arrows for hunting purposes fo' sho' though. [03-Oct-20 08:25 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 With their heavy use of poison [03-Oct-20 08:25 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 it was me I'm the one who said male lamias have 2 dicks it's supposed to be a running joke everyone knows they can just retract the dicks but Dooser is horny, and in severe denial that he is horny {Reactions} bigkek (2) [03-Oct-20 08:25 PM] mothman#1742 well snakes do like to play with their prey [03-Oct-20 08:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They do? I've never seen snakes do anything but death-dance with their prey [03-Oct-20 08:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 slam it around to get it to die, sorta thing. [03-Oct-20 08:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Less sadistic, more so “I want him to die and not come back at any costs” [03-Oct-20 08:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I know Cats like to gut shit. [03-Oct-20 08:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Make sure their prey stays dead even if they wing them [03-Oct-20 08:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Sadistic That wouldn't line up with any of the other lore so far, them being really big into personal freedoms and no-step-on-snek type shit. [03-Oct-20 08:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Just extra deadly [03-Oct-20 08:26 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 But their paralytic poison would be seen as "humane" by them because there's no actual pain But it's also agonizing in the way that it's slow and slowly creeps through your body, disabling it piece by piece until you suffocate [03-Oct-20 08:27 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 But they think it's humane [03-Oct-20 08:27 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Because it's painless, right? [03-Oct-20 08:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, that depends if it's strong enough to kill. I was thinking it would be something they dose a large enemy with and then go to cut it's neck [03-Oct-20 08:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ^^^^ [03-Oct-20 08:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More so to disable and execute [03-Oct-20 08:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I mean hell I say large enemy but, really, it'd be a large beast. We still haven't talked about the prior lore about Asia having unironic dino's, Harpy-kun. [03-Oct-20 08:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That does things, somewhat positively actually, for their diet concerns. [03-Oct-20 08:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snakes eat the Dinos [03-Oct-20 08:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fucking [03-Oct-20 08:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Stego ribs and brisket [03-Oct-20 08:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. >Go to Lamia drive-in >Waitress Lamia on 60 pairs of roller skates brings over my stegosaurus ribs and hangs the tray off my door [03-Oct-20 08:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >flips my fucking car [03-Oct-20 08:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 YABA DABA DOO {Reactions} itstime (2) [03-Oct-20 08:29 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conium_maculatum {Embed} https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conium_maculatum Conium maculatum Conium maculatum, the hemlock or poison hemlock, is a highly poisonous biennial herbaceous flowering plant in the carrot family Apiaceae, native to Europe and North Africa. A hardy plant capable of living in a variety of environments, hemlock is widely naturalized in locations... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Conium.jpg [03-Oct-20 08:29 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Doesn't take much [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 And the numbness will slowly spread across your body until you die [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sounds shitty. [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Actualyl wait shit [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 how does poison like that effect meat if one's hunting [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Can it be cooked out reasonably? [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ehhhh [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Typically not [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 iirc [03-Oct-20 08:30 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 You have to cut out the area around the poison [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, that's modern poison though I assume. Maybe this botanical shit is more forgiving. [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hopefully in their case [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also if the numbness spreads to the entire body how would cutting out the impact area make shit fine? [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Probably Maybe it's an enzyme of sorts or a fragile molecule that denatures over 60C [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Our version of they poison at least [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe they have very special hunting poison for that very purpose. [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That would go back to their poison making skills [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 You could cut your arm [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee [03-Oct-20 08:31 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 And bleed out instead [03-Oct-20 08:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >poison that paralyzes, kills, injects flavor, and tenderizes the meat all at once [03-Oct-20 08:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I can't imagine a poison that tenderizes meat is gonna not be painful for a nigga. [03-Oct-20 08:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s why it kills them first [03-Oct-20 08:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ||it was a joke|| [03-Oct-20 08:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 At any rate, historically before guns the Lamia had poison to help deal with the giant Dinosaur nigger threat. Great way to get the dinos to simmer down to make the fighting easier, or to full on take them down and then slice open their throat. [03-Oct-20 08:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 yee [03-Oct-20 08:34 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Maybe it's made from a turbonigger version of pineapple [03-Oct-20 08:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe it just knocks the Dino the fuck out? [03-Oct-20 08:35 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 It contains an enzyme that tenderizes meat, but irl it's too slow to be effective on living things [03-Oct-20 08:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like an anesthesia? [03-Oct-20 08:35 PM] mothman#1742 for the chicken wings {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762155886310326292/latest.png [03-Oct-20 08:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lamia make for perfect anesthesiologists [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 What if they mixed a tenderizer like the one in pineapples (but stronger) with one that slows down natural healing [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Melt your muscles while you're still alive [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :excuseme: [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 That would be horrible [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It would [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also the Dino flailing about would destroy much of the forest and land [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So [03-Oct-20 08:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It would be safe to assume they knock it the fuck out first [03-Oct-20 08:37 PM] mothman#1742 *BONK* [03-Oct-20 08:37 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 I would like to suggest the Chinese strategy [03-Oct-20 08:37 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Clog on the nog [03-Oct-20 08:37 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 1. Poison hemlock but it can be cooked out 2. pineapple tenderizer on steroids mixed with a healing stopper What else? [03-Oct-20 08:38 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 These are both fucked up [03-Oct-20 08:38 PM] mothman#1742 oh boy here we go looking for dinner {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762156633887080488/DGFYF3vUIAAiITW.png [03-Oct-20 08:38 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Take a biplane Droplogs on the dino nogs [03-Oct-20 08:38 PM] mothman#1742 lmao [03-Oct-20 08:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Back. >Knocks the dino out Yee maybe. I was thinking it'd require skillful use to get the poison deep enough in the dino hide to do anything, so hunting dinos would still be dangerous, and you'd occasionally lose Lamia while hunting. [03-Oct-20 08:38 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Real KMT hours [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] mothman#1742 :sex: [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >traditional Lamia hunting ammunition, colorized 20XX {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762156844763840532/image0.jpg [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] mothman#1742 its retard nigga hours [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 remember The Lost World: JP when they drugged the mom T-rex and it went back to sleep in the cargo hold? something like that would make sense the vietlamias tranq the dinos then slice them up while they sleep causing a cultural connotation with extreme paranoia to come with drugs or food that helps you sleep {Reactions} itstime (2) [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] mothman#1742 yeah [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 OOOOHHHHH [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Lamia make for perfect anesthesiologists Hell yeah. Good hearing, get a good feel for your heart beat, know the natural biological responses to such things like the back of their hand. [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] mothman#1742 thats perfect [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 IF THEY USE AN ANESTHESIA [03-Oct-20 08:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 IT WOULD MAKE SENSE WHY THEY TAKE HUGE NAPS AFYER BIG MEALS [03-Oct-20 08:40 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 >she injected butter into my veins the audacity of this bitch {Reactions} itstime (3) [03-Oct-20 08:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The light amount leftover poison would make them sleepy [03-Oct-20 08:40 PM] mothman#1742 >lamias sometimes hire human hunters [03-Oct-20 08:41 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 >egg-nest lamias hop themselves up on Adderall and shit >they can't stop the paranoid feeling that they'll be caught lacking if they fall asleep {Reactions} excuseme (2) [03-Oct-20 08:41 PM] mothman#1742 that doesnt sound good [03-Oct-20 08:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Makes sense culturally though [03-Oct-20 08:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 God help me what a terrible night for lore work. Have to keep going afk every two minutes. >Make sense why they take huge naps after meals It might have some early traditional bearing. Putting the idea of sleeping after big meals into their culture. That being said, idunno. [03-Oct-20 08:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Would work both ways [03-Oct-20 08:43 PM] mothman#1742 maybe their biology works in a way where they dont need as much sleep as humans do [03-Oct-20 08:43 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Normally creatures are immune to their own venom aren't they? [03-Oct-20 08:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ehhhh [03-Oct-20 08:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sometimes [03-Oct-20 08:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup, though this isn't their own venom. [03-Oct-20 08:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ^^ [03-Oct-20 08:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also that [03-Oct-20 08:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I would think most snakes would be, since they use their venom in food sourcing. [03-Oct-20 08:45 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 >lamia marries human >moves into her husband's house >she can actually sleep normally around the egg-nest >but only after triple-checking the locks, barring the windows from the outside, at least two booby traps per door, and trip-wire poison dart launchers in the attic and basement {Reactions} happyharpy (2) [03-Oct-20 08:45 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 One of them took this even farther after getting access to the internet and fell for the "you die when you sleep and get replaced with a new consciousness with your memories" meme and has stayed awake for 10 years straight thanks to a cocktail of drugs (a third of them provided by the Monsanto Gang, a third by the Pfeizer Republic and the rest he made himself) He's called wide-eyed joe {Reactions} Jerry (3) [03-Oct-20 08:45 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 The most awake man to slither on this earth [03-Oct-20 08:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Cactus Steve I like that, and hope someone puts that in a story [03-Oct-20 08:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also Wide-eyed Joe [03-Oct-20 08:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, something I was wondering about earlier [03-Oct-20 08:46 PM] mothman#1742 >dale gribble but he's a snake [03-Oct-20 08:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, Lamia take roughly 9 months to have kids, same as humans, more or less. A bunch of months with the egg inside the wife, and several months with the egg being incubated. [03-Oct-20 08:47 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 At that point he can't back down because of sunk cost If he went to sleep he def wouldn't wake up for months and prob starve or get killed in his sleep [03-Oct-20 08:47 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762158881304084480/698034664102952991.png [03-Oct-20 08:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Odd, my wife says she has shoulder pain, but her shoulder blades are the same temperature as the rest of her..." [03-Oct-20 08:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Well, hopefully John Snakecorn figures this one out for us." [03-Oct-20 08:47 PM] mothman#1742 "they're all trying to put us to sleep anon" [03-Oct-20 08:47 PM] mothman#1742 "good think those spooks dont have shit on me" [03-Oct-20 08:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Moffman-kun, you're like 17 aren't you? Have you ever seen KotH? [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] mothman#1742 bruh [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] mothman#1742 i'm 22 and have watched every season [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 o-oh [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and also based. [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 KotH is based [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 "I'm the oldest non-godlike consciousness alive in this world" [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] mothman#1742 kek {Reactions} [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Best American anime but unironically. [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Even better than ATLA [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 tbh [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] mothman#1742 oh my god [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] mothman#1742 i just realized somehting [03-Oct-20 08:48 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Never watched KotH but it looks interesting [03-Oct-20 08:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s great [03-Oct-20 08:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 America the anime [03-Oct-20 08:49 PM] mothman#1742 chimbo is dale gribble but instead of american conspiracies its russian history [03-Oct-20 08:49 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc4pa5cQ4j8 Wide-Eyed Joe double-checks his lawn for the 14th time this night ||but it's a mongoose puppet instead of bobby|| {Embed} tsugaru242 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc4pa5cQ4j8 Best King Of The Hill Clip Ever. I love this clip. It gets me every time. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Pc4pa5cQ4j8/maxresdefault.jpg [03-Oct-20 08:49 PM] mothman#1742 lmao [03-Oct-20 08:50 PM] mothman#1742 i like the fact that the automated voice is also his own [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway uh, so snake pregnancy. 6 months with the egg inside, 3 months guarding the egg because being snake-pregnant makes you fucking crazy. Probably about human norm' for the amount of pregnancies practically doable through their lifespans. They're more likely to have a clutch of eggs than humans are to have 2 or more children, but they aren't *that* much more likely. [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 How would the Lamia react to energy drinks? [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 >has glued his eyes open and has to spray moisturizer on them [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Bang, reign, etc [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] mothman#1742 kek [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, considering that, their children would be as important to them as ours are to us [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 so, considering *that*, [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What would they do with their children's egg shells? [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Good question [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Or maybe they aren't glued, he's just kept them open for so long that the muscles froze up [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Culturally, maybe a farming ritual? [03-Oct-20 08:51 PM] mothman#1742 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFc_0WXxOXI they pull a meet the fockers and keep it like foreskin {Embed} Movieclips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFc_0WXxOXI Meet the Fockers (6/12) Movie CLIP - Foreskin Fondue (2004) HD Meet the Fockers movie clips: http://j.mp/15w2HRo BUY THE MOVIE: http://amzn.to/tjqTW9 Don't miss the HOTTEST NEW TRAILERS: http://bit.ly/1u2y6pr CLIP DESCRIPTION: An argument at dinner over Greg's (Ben Stiller) baby book sends his foreskin into the fondue pot. FILM DESCRIPT... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qFc_0WXxOXI/maxresdefault.jpg [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Calcium is good for tomato’s and succulents iirc [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinking since they're so big on polishing shit, maybe they'd work the shells into some ornamental object or piece of jewelry in some fashion. [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Farming ritual hmmm [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they grind the eggshells and sprinkle them on the land? [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Chicken eat their egg shells to recycle precious calcium [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 energy drinks would be a godsend for them like catnip to feline-folks probably wind up a illegal narcotic with a thriving black market and smuggling operations {Reactions} itstime [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I think other birds do the same [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Something something “your birth shall take care of the land, just as you shall?” [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] mothman#1742 @Cactus Steve oh god i didnt think about catnip [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yee, but iirc snakes don’t [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, and animals eat their placenta or w/e often but humans certainly don't do that. [03-Oct-20 08:52 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Egg production is very taxing on your calcium supplies [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 But these aren't chickens [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I like the idea of polishing the shells, maybe make it into a jewelry piece? [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] mothman#1742 yeah reptile eggs are different [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 They don't lay eggs 6 times per week [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] mothman#1742 especially snake eggs [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A ring or something? [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] mothman#1742 they are a lot softer [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, maybe.. How thick are these eggs gonna be? [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] mothman#1742 sometimes [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Y'know what fuck [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 how *big* would the eggs be [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I guess... ostrich size? [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snake eggs look like tubes [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Softer? But it takes months for them to hatch? [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe like [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Na, I saw some snake egg videos the other day [03-Oct-20 08:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the bad shitty ones look like tubes, the ones that are fertile properly look like uh [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 slightly tube-y-er chicken eggs [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and they're also covered in a natural adhesive so they stick together. [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yee [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like that [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Tube [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So like [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Maybe Lamia babies start out smaller than human babies Which means more complications if they're mixed race [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snake egg but bigger [03-Oct-20 08:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Huh [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe lamia baby are regular snake sized? [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Too big for the shell or the egg is too big for the mother [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I like the farming ritual thing a lot. Hell, I think the polishing and waxing niggas would be more the city dwelling Lamia anyway. Rich niggas who could afford to look good all the time. [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So maybe the richer Lamia save their children's egg shellsa nd do fancy shit with them [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 JAMIE PULL UP THE SMOL LAMIA [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and the farming niggas do a farming ritual ceremony [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] mothman#1742 @Battlebrothermichael got you joe {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762161010655494154/2b9.png [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 They'll keep their eggs like Jews keep their dried up foreskins [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Anon feeding his children, circa a story {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762161028829413386/image0.jpg [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] mothman#1742 fuck [03-Oct-20 08:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 AYYY [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 beat me to it [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I like that class distinction, it is very good [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Lamia baby regular snake sized Eh, howmst, is the issue. [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They grow [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Beeg [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Lamias are to snakes what Jews are to rats [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fast [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I hate rats and I hate jews [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 What do they eat as babies [03-Oct-20 08:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ||Snake Milk|| [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So Lamia lactate? [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snek milk [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 I brought this up in the Harpy side-story where the human-harpy mutt needed medical assistance to get out of the shell, on account of having no talons, just human 5-digit feet [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hell yeha they do have you seen those orbs? [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like platypus [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Add that to Wargun's farm livestock order list [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Warm blooded, lay eggs, are mammal [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >harpy with no talons Cute and based bth [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] mothman#1742 the perfect pic for the convo at hand {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762161524943880212/look-claddy-m-an-ouro-boss-little-snek-daughter-pic-25095493.png [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 tbh* [03-Oct-20 08:57 PM] mothman#1742 le infinite snek [03-Oct-20 08:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Ouroboss Cute [03-Oct-20 08:58 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 :intense: [03-Oct-20 08:58 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 very nice [03-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Cactus Steve very based, imma have to read that soon [03-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But yeah, class distinction. Maybe the rich niggas do shit like uhhhhh surround picture frames with very highly polished and beautiful eggshell borders, for really special important pics. [03-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also that’s fucking cute as hell [03-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 :happyharpy: [03-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe the parents work the shells into something important and every-day for themselves. A good luck charm of sorts. [03-Oct-20 08:59 PM] mothman#1742 @Cactus Steve i'll have to read that, the differences and complications of crossbreeds interests me a lot, like how they work and shit [03-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 (pinned) Maybe a... sort of uhm. Hexagon-topped box where they rotate this nob on the top and cycle through pictures of all their snake children [03-Oct-20 08:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 with shining bits of their shell affixed underneath [03-Oct-20 09:00 PM] Coastie#3790 Glue the shells bacl together and make them into lamps [03-Oct-20 09:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oooh. [03-Oct-20 09:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That takes a lot of shell material, is the thing, but I imagine some of the uhhh [03-Oct-20 09:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 lower-class but wealthier lamia might have done that. [03-Oct-20 09:00 PM] mothman#1742 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762162327729733632/DsO52mWWsAAKqPu.png [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Pinned a message. [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] Coastie#3790 Well, when shells dry out they get hard and brittle. [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If a Lamia woman dies giving birth somehow, she's either held until the Child is born and buried with the shell, or her grave is dug up and the shell put in with her once the baby is born from the shell. [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If a baby dies *in* the shell, the entire shell is buried as one unit. {Reactions} bigsad (2) [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] mothman#1742 :dread: [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I think the mixed race issue is best left ignored and that goes for most species The only exception I see is half elves, half dwarves, quarterlings and maybe half orcs It's better not to think of the product of unions between humans and half-beast species That doesn't mean that can't happen or shouldn't be done in stories, just that it's too much of a can of worms for general lore writing {Reactions} (2) [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >hard and brittle Yup, but Lamias are absolute masters of waxes and polishing. If anybody could polish and then delicately suspend the shell somewhere, it'd be them. [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] mothman#1742 well i assumed with some its a 50/50 chance its either, and not a half [03-Oct-20 09:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Plus, they're great with lacquers, some of which are prolly quite protective [03-Oct-20 09:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 so they might be able to uhm [03-Oct-20 09:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 what's the word. [03-Oct-20 09:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Keep-the-shell-unbroken using that. [03-Oct-20 09:02 PM] Coastie#3790 >harpy and centaur get together. >25% chance of centaur, 25% chance of harpy, 50%chance of Pegasus. {Reactions} itstime (4) [03-Oct-20 09:02 PM] mothman#1742 @Bob_the_Builder also i think the half thing works with elves, dwarves, orcs, etc because they are a lot closer to humans than say a harpy, or a lamia. much more similar biology [03-Oct-20 09:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I really like that idea, put it in a doc somewhere [03-Oct-20 09:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >put it in the doc somewhere [03-Oct-20 09:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Right away! [03-Oct-20 09:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @mothman I really like my idea, put it in a doc somewhere [03-Oct-20 09:03 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Harpy-Human, Lamia-Human and Harpy-Lamia mixes could happen but that's at the writer's discretion [03-Oct-20 09:04 PM] mothman#1742 yeah [03-Oct-20 09:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinking that the human part could majorly effect the uhm, snussy-human part [03-Oct-20 09:04 PM] mothman#1742 how ? [03-Oct-20 09:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but that the snake aspects and the general larger size of the human half would remain, mostly. [03-Oct-20 09:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said it's important that something like that be left open ended so writers can make their own decisions for certain shit like that. [03-Oct-20 09:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Harpy and I for instance have only worked on like, Vietlamia Lamia, and North American Lamia to a much lesser extent. [03-Oct-20 09:05 PM] mothman#1742 >lamia-human halfbreed >he looks like a normal human dude except for the patches of scales on his body {Reactions} nascu [03-Oct-20 09:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If somebody wants to write some uhh South American jungle Lamia there could be a lot of differences. [03-Oct-20 09:05 PM] mothman#1742 actually the halfbreed thing works great since its kind of a mutation, not every one would be the same [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] mothman#1742 it opens more possiblities for writing [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, kinda. [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This is just generalized lamia lore [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 >gets called lizardman [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ^ [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] mothman#1742 some might have the snake half, other wouldnt [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 There can and will be outliers [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] mothman#1742 kind of like the harpy mutt with no talons [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 I made a longpost on hybrids lemme pull it up, it got pinned [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hell, I’m hoping for that [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >tfw no half-lamia child who has a talking snake head and upper body and a human lower body {Reactions} Jerry (2) [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Cactus Steve Oh hell yes [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 life is suffering, bros :bigsad: [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] mothman#1742 they dont have snake heads tho [03-Oct-20 09:06 PM] mothman#1742 they arent even reptiles [03-Oct-20 09:07 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Sad that no one noticed that I used the term "quarterlings" for half-halflings [03-Oct-20 09:07 PM] mothman#1742 kek [03-Oct-20 09:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, for those of you unaware, the Vietlamia have a demigod King, of sorts. [03-Oct-20 09:07 PM] mothman#1742 we use the term manlet around here [03-Oct-20 09:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Kinda sorta like the Japs had but there's actual basis in the case of the Lamia, as well as a meaningful magical and genetic difference between true Royals and what amounts to Peasants. [03-Oct-20 09:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, it'd be interesting if one of the Kings was really fond of Children, and had a sort of egg depository thing. Parents would break off chunks of their kid's shell, the rich ones would inscribe and maybe then even gild the information on the child on the shell, the poor-ass niggas would just send along a written note, and the whole thing would be deposited in one of many hundreds of thousands of boxes. [03-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A tradition that continues in some places in some forms, but that continued for a long time in it's actual official manner, ending and starting up again at different points in history. {Reactions} itstime [03-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 (pinned) found it "on the topic of genetics and phylogeny (yes, I had to google that), RWBY has the right idea, and my story is going with a similar idea if a dogboy bangs a catgirl, the kid will be a cat, the species is always the mother's, however, secondary traits, such as hair color, eye color, metabolism, etc, can be inherited from the father but if say, one form of cat, like a tigergirl bangs another kind of cat, like a bobcatboy, then you get a hybrid, like a Liger or a Golden Husky and humans are the blank slate of all this for example, if a human female bangs a harpy dude, or vice-versa, the kid might be a regular harpy or they might just wind up a baseline human, or any of the potential combinations in between no cloaca though get out of here, stalker" [03-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 What if true royals actually have blue blood [03-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Colorful. [03-Oct-20 09:11 PM] mothman#1742 @Cactus Steve that makes a lot of sense genetics wise, with humans being the baseline [03-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Coastie#3790 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762165022062936074/DVhmWb_V4AAZKni.jpg [03-Oct-20 09:11 PM] mothman#1742 bruh [03-Oct-20 09:11 PM] mothman#1742 wtf [03-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 >species is always the mother So mixed race unions is an even more direct form of racial suicide [03-Oct-20 09:11 PM] mothman#1742 kek [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] mothman#1742 i dont think they are always the mother [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Racial cuckery even [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] mothman#1742 wait [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 @Bob_the_Builder why yes unless you're human in which case your children are objectively superior than yourself [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] mothman#1742 oh shit you're right [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Pinned a message. [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Coastie#3790 So. There ARE half-halflings? [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] mothman#1742 manlets [03-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 They aren't human tho [03-Oct-20 09:13 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 those are just short people with non-stumpy limbs [03-Oct-20 09:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Bob_the_Builder It’s also up to the writers discretion [03-Oct-20 09:13 PM] mothman#1742 halflings i always saw as pretty much super close to humans [03-Oct-20 09:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Major spoiler: ||I was going to have It where anons sons are human, but the daughters are harpy|| {Reactions} nascu (2) (2) happyharpy (2) harpyjudgement (3) [03-Oct-20 09:13 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I will make it so in a story to justify segregation {Reactions} chad (3) [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >unironic major spoiler [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 @Battlebrothermichael was going? That sounds like a good way to circumvent the issue [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Why drop it [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] mothman#1742 wait [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] mothman#1742 actually that makes sense [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *I am [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] mothman#1742 if the mother is a different race, maybe sons would be like the father [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And it would be inverse if a male harpy and a human female had a baby [03-Oct-20 09:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Neat. [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] mothman#1742 oh shit [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Male harpys or human daughter [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] mothman#1742 ok this makes sense [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] mothman#1742 it depends more on the racial combo [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Or maybe have it that way but with the genders switched relative to the parents [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] mothman#1742 yes [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 I would also like to add tieflings to the human-mutation anomaly since their adaption comes from infernal DNA instead of regular arcane shenanigans for example hellhounds are descended from tieflings who had a taste for caninefolks [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] mothman#1742 thats how you get around the racial cucking [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Coastie#3790 Wait, then how does Derik harpy have two dicks? [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 This ensures that one or the other gender of harpy/human doesn't become more dominant [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] mothman#1742 exactly [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >how does he have two dicks Luck {Reactions} itstime [03-Oct-20 09:15 PM] mothman#1742 especially if you have more than one offspring [03-Oct-20 09:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Bob_the_Builder that’s the idea [03-Oct-20 09:16 PM] mothman#1742 @Cactus Steve yes, because teiflings are techincally 100% human dna [03-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Coastie ||a funny joke involving lizard man DNA somewhere isn’t he family tree|| {Reactions} vibeface [03-Oct-20 09:17 PM] mothman#1742 uh oh [03-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So male human with female lamia = human girls and lamia boys, each inheriting the more superficial traits of their parent of the corresponding sex [03-Oct-20 09:17 PM] mothman#1742 yes [03-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ehhh [03-Oct-20 09:17 PM] mothman#1742 wait [03-Oct-20 09:17 PM] mothman#1742 i think the combo is wrong [03-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like it being the gender of the parent [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 kind of but no. [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 It's a kinda crisscross {Reactions} [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] mothman#1742 maybe make it a 50/50 of either gender being the human one [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 Monster men do not exist {Reactions} Jerry [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Human male = human sons [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 And it prevents domination by one gender for each race in the long term [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 To make it canon that this is how the breeding shit works is prolly a bad idea. [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] mothman#1742 yeah they do nigger [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 No [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Mathematically it makes more sense [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] mothman#1742 who do you think helped make monstergirls [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >To make it canon that this is how the breeding shit works is prolly a bad idea. @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I agree [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 If they do then I will fucking kill all of them [03-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Gentlemen, gentlemen, [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 this is Lamia Hours. Take this particular autism to Race-Discussion or something. [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Maybe have it just he random [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Have it be however it works conveniently in their own stories [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 >who do you think helped make monster girls [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also yes [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 My cock that’s who [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This is Lamia hours [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] mothman#1742 lmao [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] mothman#1742 anyway [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 too bad, orc you're getting your snek and dragon men and you're gonna ||slit their throats with broken vodka bottles|| and you will like it {Reactions} itstime [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Having it random means the author always gets to chose [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] mothman#1742 hmmm [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] mothman#1742 your right [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 It's simpler [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Harpy, ban chimbo permanently for his insolence. {Reactions} Jerry [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 I would like that [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] mothman#1742 also then i'm wondering how the actual halfies fit into this [03-Oct-20 09:19 PM] mothman#1742 like the harpy mutt [03-Oct-20 09:20 PM] mothman#1742 maybe the human feet is a superficial trait [03-Oct-20 09:20 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 Fucking crack some dumb dragon nigger’s jaw for scorching my jacket [03-Oct-20 09:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think just leave it up to the author [03-Oct-20 09:20 PM] mothman#1742 @Punished Zingus this is lamia hours [03-Oct-20 09:20 PM] mothman#1742 take it to race discussion [03-Oct-20 09:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [03-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 30% chance it's a harpy, 30% chance it's a human, 40% chance it's a hybrid [03-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Idk [03-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 Ok I will murder every lamia male [03-Oct-20 09:21 PM] mothman#1742 ok time for orc to go to monkey town [03-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 More poon for us [03-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 :MustacheMan: [03-Oct-20 09:21 PM] mothman#1742 off to brazil with you [03-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I will sell supercrack for Monsanto [03-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 NOOOOOOOOO [03-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 ANYTHING BUT BRAZIL [03-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 ILL BE GOOD I PROMISE [03-Oct-20 09:22 PM] mothman#1742 then stop shitting up the convo and let us talk about sneks [03-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Let’s talk about snek culture and world [03-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 We're talking mostly like, lore for early Lamias, lore for directly after Konvergence, and specifically because of my own needs Lamia diaspora in the American South West. Idunno about Lamia half breeds and how that fits into Lamia culture one way or the other. One thing I'd like to cover is further Lamia culture in relation to their no-step-on-snake thing. [03-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Coastie#3790 Easy fix, have the snake half DNA be equal part dominant as human legs, but both sets of DNA are exclusive. Meaning they cant have two snake tails as legs or one giant human foot [03-Oct-20 09:23 PM] mothman#1742 uh [03-Oct-20 09:23 PM] mothman#1742 how about no [03-Oct-20 09:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 My son, Snake-Eyes. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762168005547261972/Qoxx3fFPzk.png [03-Oct-20 09:23 PM] mothman#1742 kek [03-Oct-20 09:23 PM] mothman#1742 dude looks like the snake men in sens fortress [03-Oct-20 09:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway washu thinkin' on culture @Battlebrothermichael ? Also what parts of their culture we've so far discussed are actually cultural, and which parts are semi-instinctual? [03-Oct-20 09:24 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 33.333% chance is a human, 33.333% chance it's a lamia, 33.333% chance it's a hybrid and 0.001% chance it's an unholy abomination like the one you described above. [03-Oct-20 09:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was memein' the other day than sunning is semi-instinctual, as much as it can be. That, and preferring their food to be moving, in the same way that we (and most creatures) prefer our water to be cold. [03-Oct-20 09:24 PM] mothman#1742 lmao [03-Oct-20 09:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, Moffman-kun, have you read back through Harpy's n I's lamia posts here from the other day? [03-Oct-20 09:27 PM] mothman#1742 yeah [03-Oct-20 09:27 PM] mothman#1742 i'm on here everyday [03-Oct-20 09:28 PM] mothman#1742 i see everything [03-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Whoa, high tech. What are your feelings on our conclusions for their culture, in relation to the whole no-step-on-snake thing [03-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Really pro personal freedoms deal'. [03-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I feel like the lines of culture and instinct would be a bit mixed after a point [03-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What started as instinct easily adapts its way into culture [03-Oct-20 10:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And what was culture quickly became instinct [03-Oct-20 10:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >became instinct Eh, normally I'd say that sounds kinda unbelievable but these were literally man-or-other-creature-made beings, so [03-Oct-20 10:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How do you imagine them to act in person, generally? The Vietlamia ones that don't really have any human culture in'm. [03-Oct-20 10:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [03-Oct-20 10:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Open and friendly towards family [03-Oct-20 10:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Very comfortable [03-Oct-20 10:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But very distant towards outsiders [03-Oct-20 10:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And, for that matter, how often do they see other people who aren't neighbors at the regional dances, or people delivering things the family ordered, or people who know the family and are bartering with them from quite a ways away. [03-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What does very distant actually mean? How's that manifest in their lives? [03-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They’d probably talk with neighbors no problem at the dances [03-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Strangers and outsiders not from the area maybe not [03-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Delivery people and foreign workers probably get the same cursory neighbor treatment out of fair politeness [03-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, but what's that mean? Would they feel... nervous? Scared? Is it a situation where every Lamia is told about how you should never trust outsiders, etc etc? Or is this merely a product of them almost never meeting outsiders, that makes them so .... distanced from them. [03-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not nervous [03-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More weary [03-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [03-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The same weary you get when the delivery man shows up a little too late at night [03-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also probably from the ingrained culture of “no step on snek” [03-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, do they actually teach young Lamia a bunch of shit about never trusting people you don't know, and don't have some association with? I guess that'd just be the answer then. [03-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not taught [03-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Well [03-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not directly taught [03-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More learned by seeing their parents do it [03-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Who learned from their parents [03-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How would it work if you met a Lamia girl online and made friends with her and then she invited you to her family's land? What hoops would she need to jump through for her parents to allow that, and how would you be welcomed? [03-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Who got it from the grandparents [03-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And so forth [03-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Welll [03-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, you're saying there's no uhhhh like. Fairy tale shits or general stories with morals of "Don't trust strangers" [03-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If she trusted you enough to take you to their land [03-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It most likely would be that she knew you very well [03-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And most likely has communicated to her parents about you [03-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 There might be one or two stories [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe stories of how monsters came from outside and destroyed the farms of some lamia [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But no very on the nose stuff [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would it be a deal where the parents would trust her, because >Lamia Culture<, to have vetted you thoroughly before even imagining making this suggestion? [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And therefor assume she's done all the *leg*work so far on this, [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I would think so [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 or would they want to sus it out themselves [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Both [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sure our daughter thinks he’s nice [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Let’s see for ourselves [03-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe meet him somewhere off the property [03-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >one or two Eh, most of the time when a culture is a certain way, they've got stories about that. Like how Chinks have shitloads of stories about niggas getting rich by tricking gods and shit, tricking other people, etc [03-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Coastie#3790 Stories of outsiders doing harm, shapeshifter stealing people and things. Bodysnachers {Reactions} itstime (2) [03-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Idunno about body snatchers but yeah [03-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like those ideas [03-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Bodysnatchers who steal a lamias body, and use it to steal their neighbors supplies and food [03-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, either this is a completely unspoken cultural thing, or a cultural thing that's intentinoally perpetrated which there's nothin' wrong with that, or it's natural. [03-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also goes into neighbor distrust [03-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The second seems the most realistic. [03-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A mix of the two [03-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine they've got a story about how like... [03-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Kind of unspoken, but there is something about it that works well [03-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 a Trickster Oni dragged a log behind itself, got onto Lamia land, got into their store houses and stole the food, and then walked back over the land border to their neighbor's, sparking a big fight [03-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but in reality it was just Oni-kun being a nigger [03-Oct-20 10:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and the moral is always to look before you leap, because in the end both neighbors suffered and the Oni came out of it both unpunished *and* with easier picking grounds later. [03-Oct-20 10:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and/or less people hunting for it in the jungles. [03-Oct-20 10:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So it'd just be lamia common sense not to be retarded and let an unvetted stranger into the heart of their family's estate for instance. [03-Oct-20 10:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, the point being, the log-dragging looks like lamia prints. [03-Oct-20 10:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or... Print, as it were. [03-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s smart of the Oni to do [03-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, so how would Lamia merchants work, really? You can't just be a Merchant only in your own back yard. Or, well, you can, but people elsewhere need to buy things too, after all. So how does that work? [03-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also I like this as an idea for a local myth/legend/fairy tale [03-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [03-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Traveling merchants [03-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 You’re giant wicker basket idea [03-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably pulled by water buffalo [03-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Might be a smaller lamia, not much physical strength [03-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yes. The water buffalo have enough problems hauling 1,500 pounds of snussy without needing the extra weight of heavy ass wagon flooring [03-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, the Lamia aren't very open to strangers at all, so how does a Merchant set up a trading route? Logically, many of the Lamia estates he would come upon would look upon him with much distrust, isn't that right? [03-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe about four of them? [03-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Good point [03-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Merchant families? [03-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Trusted merchant names? [03-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Stamp of approval from the leaders of the communities? [03-Oct-20 10:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, maybe. Though a lot of the time, as we discussed, Lamia in general but especially Lamia patriarchs don't trust corporations or big government or any such thing. Maybe they can be partly tricked by a name brand, so they've got a lot of brand loyalty, just like fucking boomers [03-Oct-20 10:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "oh, Anon, stop the cart. That toaster there, I remember that brand from when I was just a young man. Get that one, it's the best one here!" [03-Oct-20 10:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 when in reality that brand had changed hands 10 times in 20 years and was junk. [03-Oct-20 10:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 (this is what shopping with boomers is like, zoomers.) [03-Oct-20 10:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, [03-Oct-20 10:37 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah yes, that [03-Oct-20 10:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Brand loyalty [03-Oct-20 10:38 PM] Coastie#3790 O gather here and let me tale you a tail. About a creature who moved on arms instead of a tail. It came in the morning one day it did. It was such a strange sight, the village did gather. Ah'd and oh'd they did at this thing Show it their homes, show it their hearths. And when night finally came they bid it farewell. It then crept into their homes quiet as a snail. And slit their purses one after another It's supposed to rime but the translation is wonky {Reactions} happyharpy (2) [03-Oct-20 10:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like it [03-Oct-20 10:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia much prefer person-to-person things. That's how they gain trust, which is why Merchants doing their jobs for long term is important. There might be some uhm, grandfathered trust for like, father son operations and such, and sometimes with family traders but [03-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, you imagine he has a load of X and he wants to travel up this road and visit 100 Lamia estates over the course of a month or two. Howmst does first contact work in Lamia society? [03-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would it be big on uh... What's the word. [03-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Meeting-Gifts? There's a better word for it than that. [03-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I thought about Meetnig-Gifts being door-openers, as it were, [03-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Definitely the family business thing [03-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Doing business for years and years [03-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and also a very extensive voucher system. Your neighbor vouches for you to his neighbor, that neighbor vouches for you to his neighbor 10 miles down the road, that neighbor vouches for you to *his* neighbor across the lake, etc etc etc. [03-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 As for initial contact that would be tough, and could take a lot of planning on the merchants part [03-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But once they have a customer, they have a customer for life [03-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So a nigga would have to give all'a these niggas gifts, do business with all of them in an Upright way, as it were, and gain the trust of each fuckin' family to at least some small extent so that the next family down the line would even consider doing business. [03-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe first the merchant goes to the local leader/priest/sheriff/head snek etc [03-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Gets their permission to do business [03-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Then that spreads word around [03-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they get their signature [03-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Imagine a Lamia sticking his head through a hatch in a large door. "Ehh? Scrubbers? Do we know you? ...No? [socially acceptable amount of dead air, waiting for the merchant to offer a bribe-gift, which he does not do] Get lost." [03-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, I was thinking Permission, but it's too much like a license. [03-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Coastie#3790 Maybe the merchant families know each other and trade to trade with their different trade routes? Smerchant 1 has done business in region X while Smerchant 2 does business in region Y. These two merchants, if they want to do trading in the others are have to trade with each other because the locals in the region's wouldn't trust them? [03-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The Sheriff is the most-liked snake but the idea is that he's a willing public servant of sorts, not a ruler unto himself. [03-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [03-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Smerchent [03-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So if he is the most liked snek [03-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Certainly the smerchent he approved is good [03-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And yes [03-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like the term Smerchent [03-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's based. [03-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinkin' the other day, [03-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 how the fuck do you work Sssss's into Vietnamese. [03-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like, y'ever heard it spoken? Ssss's don't fit. [03-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Coastie#3790 Why do snakes have to be forced to make S sounds? [03-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >certainly Eh, maybe. Depends if the Sheriff is actually properly known and liked by all the families. [03-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They don't, but I was thinking about the idea. [03-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What do you guys think of the meeting-gift idea? That's a thing in many cultures, right? Howmst would that work in Lamia culture for merchant niggas? Really, these Merchant niggas would view these first contact situations like investments. The merchants aren't selling goods, in those instances, they're buying trust. [03-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Coastie#3790 Another question, since they have sharper teeth, as in pointed to some extent, would that make it more or less difficult to form certain sounds and syllables? [03-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mm, well, the idea is they have human teeth but on the sharper and pointier side of human norm, and then the canines in particular just a little pointier than said norms. [03-Oct-20 10:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 One thing we didn't talk much about was their heat vision thing. Lamia *do* have snake tongues, don't they @Battlebrothermichael [03-Oct-20 10:47 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A meeting gift might be a good idea [03-Oct-20 10:47 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe the quality of the gift is judged? [03-Oct-20 10:47 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [03-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If it is too high of quality, they might consider it that they are trying to be bought over [03-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Coastie#3790 Infrared pits near/under their eyes? [03-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ooh, yeah. [03-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But if the gift is too low quality it’s looked at that you are purposely trying to lowball them to get their pity [03-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Has to be just right [03-Oct-20 10:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And maybe the practicality of the gift as well? [03-Oct-20 10:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Very subtle dance, Lamia culture is in that way. Too shitty of a gift reflects bad on the gift giver in the usual way, they're small time, perhaps they're poor, perhaps they're here to try to case the joint and take out wealth, oh no, {Reactions} emoji_25 (2) happyharpy (2) [03-Oct-20 10:49 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 No steal from snek [03-Oct-20 10:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Too good of a gift, somebody's being buttered up. Suspicion descends. Is this nigga super rich, or is he just trying to act like he is? Is he trying to fool us into some scam? {Reactions} happyharpy (2) [03-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Coastie I’d think they would have a decent heat vision from the little pits, maybe just “feel” when things are warmer from a good distance. [03-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit yes, exactly like that [03-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >infrared pits Idunno about that. Don't snakes also have that deal where uhh [03-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They stick their tongue out, gather samples with it, slap it against some organ at the roof of their mouth, and then come to conclusions with that? [03-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, what about the whole tasting fear thing. [03-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Coastie#3790 That's smell. [03-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yee [03-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm. Is their sense of smell especially powerful? [03-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The heat “vision” and the smell thing are different organs [03-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ehhh [03-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snake smelling is unique [03-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They don’t use their nose [03-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They use some other organ [03-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A lot like an Indian. Hm. [03-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think it’s the mouth organ you said [03-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Coastie#3790 Nose is for air Tongue is for finding prey [03-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, infrared pit pill me. How big are these things, where would they be located on the Lamia? [03-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Under the eyes? The jaw? [03-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 On the snoot {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762190632902852608/image0.jpg [03-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also what abilities does their smell afford them? Would Lamia be able to detect distant prey as well, with this? [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I would think so, yes [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also be able to tell what it is [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or at least what it isn’t [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >on the snoot Cute. [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Pick out individual unique smells in a “crowd” of smells [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Sadwick Stone#8372 @Battlebrothermichael did you update pizza dragon any time recently [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Coastie#3790 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_sensing_in_snakes {Embed} https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_sensing_in_snakes Infrared sensing in snakes The ability to sense infrared thermal radiation evolved independently in two different groups of snakes, Boidae (boas and pythons) and Crotalinae (pit vipers). What is commonly called a Pit Organ allows these animals to essentially "see" radiant heat at wavelengths between 5 a... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/The_Pit_Organs_of_Two_Different_Snakes.jpg [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Bruh [03-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not recently, no [03-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Stuck in Uni sadly [03-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Sadwick Stone#8372 Gay [03-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I need to make time to write [03-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Sadwick Stone#8372 What have you updated [03-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not much [03-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, how self sufficient would Lamia be, traditionally? What items do these Smerchents deal in? [03-Oct-20 10:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I would think very self sufficient traditionally [03-Oct-20 10:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe the Smerchants bring “exotic” goods [03-Oct-20 10:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Smerchent shows up at the door >says he has an amazing treasure >an electric heating lamp and a microwave oven [03-Oct-20 10:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >both are bought at 3x market value [03-Oct-20 10:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe that, or specialized goods. You can't expect every Lamia estate to have good quality black smiths. Or, for instance, iron ore or coal to harvest. [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Modern Smerchents would definitely bring guns and the like [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Things like mirrors... Stones meant for high quality sharpening, which is vital to shave [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 HEY [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 PROPANE HEAT LAMPS [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Whoa [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I bet those would sell like crazy in the early days. [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, does this mean that Smerchents are the type'a niggas who are more open compared to the average peasant Lamia? [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Patio heat lamp {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762192221415931904/image0.jpg [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I would say yes, more open [03-Oct-20 10:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. For before they have electricity. [03-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I still like the idea of the giant wicker basket [03-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And then after electricity, space heaters nigga [03-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably a lid on it [03-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >he lives in a giant wicker basket with his trade goods and shit, on wheels pulled by oxen [03-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >go to sell items to Smerchent >just a giant basket >lid lifts up a little >can barely see his eyes >”what do you have?” >give him the mobile DVD player and the seven copy’s of the little mermaid >hand comes out and grabs it >other hand gives me cash [03-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe there's a folk tale about a merchant who lived in a pot that would walk from place to place, and only certain family patriarchs knew to play a flute in a certain tune for the merchant to open the pot lid and sell the Lamia his exotic and mystical goods. [03-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 HAH [03-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 YES [03-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The moral being... "What you don't know will cost you opportunities" maybe. [03-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or... "Who you know is important" [03-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [03-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Something like that would be good [03-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Coastie#3790 I'm now imagining an ox pulling a giant hamster ball wicker basket. {Reactions} happyharpy (2) itstime (2) [03-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine Lamia would really hate Betrayal. [03-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If you betrayed a lamia they would hate you forever [03-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 (Depending on the betrayal) [03-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Probably. The betrayal would probably cut especially deep. [03-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But any type of betrayal or backstabbing would be sour [03-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They aren't naiive, they aren't even trusting, but when you *do* earn their trust they expect that to be gospel, to use a boomerism. {Reactions} you [03-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >say you’d save them a slice of pizza >it gets taken >Lamia spends rest of the night not talking to you [03-Oct-20 11:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How important would a Lamia's word be. [03-Oct-20 11:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Very [03-Oct-20 11:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or, rather, would someone's word be in Lamia society. [03-Oct-20 11:04 PM] Coastie#3790 Very. [03-Oct-20 11:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like you said, Gospel [03-Oct-20 11:04 PM] Coastie#3790 Your word is your bond, if you don't have that you don't have anything [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ^^^ [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like that [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Loyalty [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Feels a bit too Dwarven-y for my taste. But maybe that's not reasonable on my part. [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It wouldn’t be like a grudge [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More just trust [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How common is Betrayal amongst Lamia? Less than betrayal amongst other races? [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Coastie#3790 A lot of cultures practiced tbat [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit close to none because traitors probably get the most severe punishment [03-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, but giving out trust as a Lamia is a huge deal. They don't give that for no reason. [03-Oct-20 11:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Treachery is the lowest pit of hell after all [03-Oct-20 11:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 You know how you said that only the most sever crimes would actually be genuinely punishable? [03-Oct-20 11:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, not so much that [03-Oct-20 11:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Treachery and betrayal would be one of those crimes [03-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If not *the* crime [03-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Coastie#3790 >Lamia culture has 12 hells instead of the traditional 7 >Treachery is still the lowest. [03-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Depending on the scale of course [03-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like, just, freedom of movement is a big deal. Imprisonment is viewed very very poorly by the Lamia. [03-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A very freedom loving people. [03-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >depends on the *scale* of course {Reactions} Jerry [03-Oct-20 11:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, like, they don't really have Jails most times. There's monetary compensation/punishment, and then there's maybe.... A deal where the family that the Lamia belongs to either pays for his crime in grain, or they have to disown him. [03-Oct-20 11:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and some crimes, physical punishment gets on the table, [03-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and then more extreme crimes, house arrest [03-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and then it's either imprisonment or death. [03-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think treachery would lead to house arrest [03-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Coastie#3790 >For the crime of betraying the trust of the community that punishment shall be a severing of the tail to the point just short of critical. {Reactions} excuseme (2) [03-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So they can’t harm other any more [03-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also that [03-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That sounds like it works [03-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe, though house arrest can only be laid down by the Sheriff, and howmst could you prove to the sheriff that a merchant was a nigger to you for instance [03-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >just short of critical [03-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Shit, that'd be just short of the shit-hole [03-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A lot of crime though would be punished with reimbursing the injured party in either food valuables or labor, or some sort of physical punishment. A couple beatings maybe, a lashing maybe, something. [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 That seems harsh [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe the beatings could also happen at any time within a year's time of the sentencing, done by the injured party and any whom he decides to bring with him. And it goes until blood is drawn with fist. [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, we're talking a big crime here. [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Their society revolves around promises and trust right? [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A huge crime [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ehhh [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Revolves around is a stretch. [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uhhhh, more like trust is of extreme value and betrayal is viewed by the masses as being horrible. [03-Oct-20 11:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More so “fuck around and find out” [03-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Why don't you have them be declared a version of untouchable [03-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Explain? [03-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ostracized, I think is what that is. [03-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Nobody can help them. Disowned. [03-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah [03-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 The untouchables are the lowest rung on the Indian social ladder [03-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [03-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Barely considered human [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 based [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 How would that work though if they typically stay to themselves and their own families? [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Not supposed to fraternize with them in any capacity [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Coastie#3790 Literal vermin are seen as higher [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, wouldn't work super great. [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they get separated from their families? [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Which are their closest people... [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That would work [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 The families would have to kick them out [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I mean, there's the families disowning them thing, as an option if they either can't or don't want to pay the grain debt of their crimes. [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Lest they all be labeled untouchable [03-Oct-20 11:14 PM] Coastie#3790 Ritualistic/punishment scaring? [03-Oct-20 11:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well that's the thing, personal freedoms are huge for Lamia, and their families are everything basically. The family can throw it's own out if it's inclined, but I feel like the people would view the Government stepping in to make that decision for them quite poorly. [03-Oct-20 11:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Personal freedoms being huge are why there's no jails really. [03-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Coastie#3790 Alright, it's a little after 1 in the morning here. Night everyone. [03-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 [03-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Goodnight coastie [03-Oct-20 11:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Coaster-kun [03-Oct-20 11:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they see it as a bad thing that the local sheriff had to get involved? [03-Oct-20 11:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like that’s punishment enough? [03-Oct-20 11:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If it can’t be resolved straight away person to person, and the authorities have to get involved, then that means they really fucked up [03-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, maybe. I think punishments would be a lot of debts and a lot of the injured party being given beating-rights, and is allowed to hire or otherwise obtain anyone he needs to help with that beating. Though that brings in the personal freedoms of the family as a whole. Is it right for them to be disallowed from stopping the injured party from going onto their land to get their justice done? [03-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [03-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Infringement is a big thing to them [03-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s why I say more house arrest [03-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or being forced to move away from their family [03-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Where they can still exercise their rights [03-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But elsewhere, where they can’t harm others [03-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 yee. House arrest I could see as being acceptable mostly, but being forced off your own land, in effect? Feels iffy. [03-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Land and property rights and laws are probably one of the biggest things in Lamia law. [03-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Exactly [03-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hence why that could be one of the most major punishments [03-Oct-20 11:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That's the thing, I think they'd view that on the level with death. What is a Lamia without a family, and without land? [03-Oct-20 11:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe Lamia that end up like that turn to ever-wandering merchants. [03-Oct-20 11:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They do business, they pay to get their cart repaired by the Lamia who know how to do that, they of course are able to stay herea nd there when that happens. Some Lamia families are probably happy enough to rent out rooms to them, but no Lamia is his family. [03-Oct-20 11:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Unless he marries into another family. [03-Oct-20 11:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which... hell... I'm not sure how that would work with a male. Maybe it's a two way street? Where a male *could* marry into a family, but usually doesn't? [03-Oct-20 11:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But in doing so he'll be freed from his punishment. The freeing would be incredibly difficult to obtain of course, though, and Lamia don't do that fake marriage bullshit either [03-Oct-20 11:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 that shit's important. [03-Oct-20 11:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But then, would a family even agree to marry in a wandering family-less merchant like that? Oof. [03-Oct-20 11:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 At any rate, how would being a visitor to Vietlamia work? In the modern day with Tourism being a thing is one thing, but I mean before they've modernized. You'd be a major curiosity which might get you some good will, but would nobody deal with you unless you gave them a meeting gift? Maybe agreed to work on their farm for room and board and walk around the general area until you've got their trust? [03-Oct-20 11:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >But then, would a family even agree to marry in a wandering family-less merchant like that? Oof. @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit and the wandering outcast lamia will wonder all of this. The thought of that alone makes any lamia think twice before doing something stupid. [03-Oct-20 11:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [03-Oct-20 11:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine most sentenced to this would consider suicide. [03-Oct-20 11:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I don’t think they’d let anyone work on their farm unless they trusted them [03-Oct-20 11:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think though [03-Oct-20 11:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 All that being said, would Lamias even normally demand to know where another's from, if they weren't a family they already knew? "What family are you from" "Ah, I was born to a family XYZ distance away from here, you wouldn't know them." "Oh." "Here's a gift, please buy some scrub brushes" [03-Oct-20 11:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia would have a good sense of a persons character [03-Oct-20 11:30 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because they could smell nervousness or fear [03-Oct-20 11:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Does that work on other lamia too? Meaning if a Lamia is gonna lie, he's gotta be a good liar? [03-Oct-20 11:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or is it customary to not talk to strangers from that close up [03-Oct-20 11:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 to where they're too far to have that gauged [03-Oct-20 11:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine it's much harder for them to smell that in rain, and there's proverbs and bullshit like that about not trusting a man on a rainy day. [03-Oct-20 11:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Listen, SJohnathan, I'd like to help you here bud but you trusted a merchant on a rainy day, okay? What am I supposed to do for you?" [03-Oct-20 11:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 so, a saying too, maybe. [03-Oct-20 11:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s a good point [03-Oct-20 11:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And yes it would work on other lamia [03-Oct-20 11:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also yes I like that rain analogy [03-Oct-20 11:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s perfect [03-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >don't think they'd let anyone work on their farm unless they trusted them Yeah, maybe. Though again that creates a huge problem then, how does a foreigner ever ingratiate himself to the locals? With Merchants, it's probably quite customary for Lamia to ... at least be *open* to the merchant's attempts at making trust [03-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But to someone who isn't a merchant and isn't a neighbor, I imagine they'd be more.. not necessarily closed off, but confused, perhaps. Wary, maybe, because it's somewhat odd. [03-Oct-20 11:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also backing up, maybe the uh, exile punishment could be viewed sometimes as more extreme than just being sentenced to death, because it's expected that the Lamia will either die by his own hand, or be killed by some gruesome thing in the wilderness. [03-Oct-20 11:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In some sense, it's almost like ||death by Freedom|| {Reactions} itstime (2) [03-Oct-20 11:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a traveler would go along with the merchants? [03-Oct-20 11:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Be introduced with them? [03-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sort of like a merchants aid? [03-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also yes [03-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Death by freedom [03-Oct-20 11:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, I suppose that would certainly be suggestion #1 by the Vietlamia traveler's guidebook [03-Oct-20 11:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How would Merchant philosophy work? Also... who are Lamia merchants? Their lives are antithetical to Lamia culture. [03-Oct-20 11:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They go out of their way to stick their noses in people's doors. They are forced to see new faces almost every day, they live a life amongst people who are not their own. [03-Oct-20 11:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Merchants would already be a bit of an outsider [03-Oct-20 11:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A good Merchant is one who can make a profit on the second visit to a new buyer(Lamia estate). [03-Oct-20 11:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I feel like that would be a, uh, truism. Especially among merchants. [03-Oct-20 11:45 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Truism? [03-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A .. kind of pointless saying, in a sense [03-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A statement that is said even though it says nothing new. [03-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "It's a good hunter that can bag 5 deer with 5 shots" [03-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That kinda statement. [03-Oct-20 11:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Something that almost sounds like a deep metaphor despite not being so. [03-Oct-20 11:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, merchants are experts at being the outsider. Would that mean they're interested in helping outsiders? [03-Oct-20 11:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, how did shops and things like that work for Lamia before the Konvergence? How did Inns work? Your whole family would be either on this, er, family estate, or be one one of the many within the surrounding 10 or 20 miles, for the majority of Lamia [03-Oct-20 11:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Your friends are the neighbors [03-Oct-20 11:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 You don't commute to work, except when it comes to hunting or fishing or the rare situation where you're a miner or forester, etc. [03-Oct-20 11:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe it's common for a Lamia estate that actually makes something that the other estates either can't or won't make to set up normal ass shops to service the Lamia of the whole area. A blacksmith lamia who is especially skilled and makes eating utensils or some shit. Positions his shop near the main road, so Lamia just walk on over to purchase things from him instead of making it into a huge deal. [03-Oct-20 11:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’m thinking that lamia wouldn’t have much need for inns [03-Oct-20 11:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It would be more “oh, I’ll just stay with family in this area” [03-Oct-20 11:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or [03-Oct-20 11:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Why are they even traveling off their land to begin with?” [03-Oct-20 11:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I also think having a shop near a main road would be of value to those lamia [03-Oct-20 11:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or [03-Oct-20 11:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Selling their items to the Smerchents [04-Oct-20 12:00 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, all good options. Whymst *would* Lamia travel off their land if not on official God-King mandated business or Smerchanting. [04-Oct-20 12:02 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Workers traveling to an uninhabited area to go mining there... Or going to a mountain to mine that the Lamia in the area don't do themselves for some reason. Though in those cases you would think the Lamia would just make long-term arrangements with a local Lamia estate. And if there were no local Lamia estate, whomst in the h*ck would offer them lodging anyway? [04-Oct-20 12:02 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sort of an isolationist people, huh? [04-Oct-20 12:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’m saying yeah [04-Oct-20 12:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not full isolation [04-Oct-20 12:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But closer to it [04-Oct-20 12:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could see certain Lamia estates offering Inn services in certain super high traffic areas. [04-Oct-20 12:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe the capital, for Lamia traveling there on important business who don't have the months and months needed to make arrangements the normal way ahead of time, gotta get there now [04-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And.. maybe Smerchants stuck in inclement weather. So an Inn specifically to service merchants every half-day's travel. But even that, oof. [04-Oct-20 12:09 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia society really seems built around a shitload of manual labor, huh? Gotta walk super far to *maybe* get an inn. Farms are really important and are all pretty labor intensive. [04-Oct-20 12:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [04-Oct-20 12:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Shitloads of manual labor [04-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Doing anything that isn’t at your home or chunk of land would be a headache [04-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And would take a great amount of effort [04-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 However, they are big [04-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And faster [04-Oct-20 12:17 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So for a human it would be awful [04-Oct-20 12:17 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But maybe not as bad for a lamia? [04-Oct-20 12:19 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mm, faster, but I wonder if that would tire them out more, being less efficient than walking is, presumably. [04-Oct-20 12:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Unless they do take carts [04-Oct-20 12:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or [04-Oct-20 12:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ride the dinosaurs [04-Oct-20 12:21 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 At some point, now or later, we should discuss how formidable they actually are. [04-Oct-20 12:22 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Well [04-Oct-20 12:22 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If Sam survived a mag dump [04-Oct-20 12:22 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think they are pretty tough [04-Oct-20 12:22 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oooh. Big lizards arent as aesthetic, odd as this is to say, as water buffalo tho [04-Oct-20 12:23 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmmm... I suppose they have an absolute shitload more blood, right? [04-Oct-20 12:24 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 To me, that necessitates also a stronger heart to pump that blood. Maybe means it takws a while longer for them to bleed out from the same wound. [04-Oct-20 12:25 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, their snake parts. How much of their literal weight could they throw around? How much of a weapon is their tail? [04-Oct-20 12:25 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah, the aesthetic isn’t there [04-Oct-20 12:25 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Unless [04-Oct-20 12:25 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Reptilian water buffalo [04-Oct-20 12:26 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And yes [04-Oct-20 12:26 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Shitload of blood [04-Oct-20 12:26 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 As for the snake parts, probably a fuckton [04-Oct-20 12:26 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Could do the complete standing up [04-Oct-20 12:26 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Tail whipping [04-Oct-20 12:26 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 All those things [04-Oct-20 12:27 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Tail whipping seems deadly. Say it's as little as 1/5th of their weight, that's still what, 300 - 350 pounds of meat headed your way, fast. {Reactions} itstime (3) [04-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, Lamia are sort of pack animals themselves, 'seems. I imagine they couldn't hold the same percentage increase of their weight in gear as we could, but it'd still be a lot. [04-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Tail whipping seems deadly. Say it's as little as 1/5th of their weight, that's still what, 300 - 350 pounds of meat headed your way, fast. @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit exactly :itstime: [04-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And now that you mention this [04-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They are like pack animals [04-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Huh [04-Oct-20 12:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I can't imagine theyd actually be able to keep moving while really loaded down like niggas with'mst legs can [04-Oct-20 12:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Buutt... Thats still something [04-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamias would probably have beasts of burden follow them carrying stuff [04-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe carry a little bit but not much [04-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Well [04-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Relatively [04-Oct-20 12:34 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. A grown Lamia could probably carry an adult man pretty easily, but anything more and it becomes a strain. [04-Oct-20 12:34 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That is, carry him on their snake parts. [04-Oct-20 12:35 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Their human parts are strong but maybe not *that* strong. [04-Oct-20 12:35 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Carrying a heavy load in a backpack vs in your hands, kinda thing. [04-Oct-20 12:40 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also I've been talking about Lamia matriarchs and patriarchs, but how many Lamia would actually be in a Lamia estate? I suplose the answer is Many, but how much is that? I imaginr these are really huge tracks of land, with many Lamia in them. Small ish villages in a sense, maybe. [04-Oct-20 12:43 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's not like these are 5 snakes living in a hut, after all. [04-Oct-20 12:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [04-Oct-20 12:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a few generations [04-Oct-20 12:53 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The grandparents [04-Oct-20 12:54 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The children, plus their husbands or wives [04-Oct-20 12:54 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Their kids [04-Oct-20 12:54 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe some family friends [04-Oct-20 12:54 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia estates are probably big [04-Oct-20 12:56 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe around 10-15 lamias can live on one [04-Oct-20 12:56 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 At least [04-Oct-20 01:01 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Quite big, yee. When you account pre-konvergence mortality rates for huntjng and general dinosaur memeing, I imagine a fair amount of young people with lesser amounts of old. Prolly just a deal where the older snakes chose one snake to be the matriarch or patriarch. 15 Lamia being the low end, maybe a couple hunnid' being the high end in most cases, though I imagine those might be merchant types. [04-Oct-20 01:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And those would fill an entire clay mountain [04-Oct-20 01:02 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or several [04-Oct-20 01:02 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. [04-Oct-20 01:02 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hell, their estate might be like it’s own mini-village [04-Oct-20 01:02 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinking Lamia estates normally have a big farm, probably quitw often a fish pond, especially if theyre far ish from rivers. [04-Oct-20 01:02 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. [04-Oct-20 01:02 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Damn [04-Oct-20 01:02 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I want to live on a lamia estate now [04-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Though having that many snakes might prompt aome to split off [04-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Same, sounds based. [04-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like the idea of a fish pond if they don’t have a river flooding through it [04-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I wanna figure out what kinda surface buildings theyd have and why. [04-Oct-20 01:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Cook houses maybe, for the bigger Estates especially [04-Oct-20 01:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Where two or three Lamia might spend most of their working hours making food for the Estate's one big ass meal. [04-Oct-20 01:06 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 On one hand the tunnels are very safe-feeling, which is appealing, as well as being very very cheap comparatively. When you need a lot of room *and* have a lot of snakes, cheap becomes essential. [04-Oct-20 01:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Store houses for their harvests. [04-Oct-20 01:08 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Workshops for whatever work their people do. Wood carving, blacksmithing, pottery, etc. [04-Oct-20 01:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [04-Oct-20 01:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe raised sheds for wood and dry goods? [04-Oct-20 01:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Keep them from getting flooded/rodents [04-Oct-20 01:11 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I wonder if they would prefer to live up there at all though. I was thinking french plantation house style structures [04-Oct-20 01:11 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Whatever french plantation house means [04-Oct-20 01:12 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Prefer to live up where? [04-Oct-20 01:12 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Raised houses? [04-Oct-20 01:12 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably not, because it would be **HELL** getting a raised house strong enough to support the weight of a single Lamia, let alone a full family [04-Oct-20 01:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think the lamias would be good with pottery [04-Oct-20 01:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or at least with blasting clay In Furnaces [04-Oct-20 01:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they could make certain houses out of bricks from the dig up clay from their houses? [04-Oct-20 01:16 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Prefer to live on the surface instead of in the caves [04-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Easier to dig out a mountain than get the material to build a house I guess [04-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Natural instinct [04-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The caves are cheap *and* fairly safe, both instinctually since >snek< but also logically. If everything has melee you can defend a single-file corridor prettt damn well [04-Oct-20 01:18 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oh definitely [04-Oct-20 01:18 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Especially if you have the full strength of a snek [04-Oct-20 01:20 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Buuut... Surface houses *are* pretty nice. Roomy, airy, lots of natural light opportunities. Dryer quicker. [04-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they could have a surface house for relaxing in the day? [04-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But the main houses are underground? [04-Oct-20 01:22 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe Lamia have their main show-off rooms up top. Dining hall that also works as a dance room for events and holidays, temples to their snake god and their King, maybe the residences of the important niggas like the Patriarch and shit. Niggas who got more shit to show off. [04-Oct-20 01:22 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Main family dining hall? [04-Oct-20 01:22 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’m cool with that [04-Oct-20 01:23 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmhmm. Close to / part of the cook house. [04-Oct-20 01:24 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If there's flooding they mkght stay up there, though after hundreds of generations theyre prolly quite good at building their tunnels as flood resistant as possible. [04-Oct-20 01:26 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine all their wars are either defensive, or holy crusades declared by their King, and otherwise shits mostly them vs fauna. [04-Oct-20 01:29 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How reluctant would they be toward contracting outsiders? Say they wanted their tile walkways replaced - a big fuckin' job all things considered - and they didnt have a tile guy. Send wors through Merchants, have the merchants vouch for both sides, and then go through the complicated snake autism of gaining eachother's trust? [04-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Driskoll#6334 And how might a certain Anon sell them weapons? [04-Oct-20 02:46 AM] Blackhawk342#0955 through a lamia medium who -doesnt care about the societal damnation resulting from said interaction with an outside -has enough power/purpose to make it not socially damning -uses cunning and guile to do it in secret [04-Oct-20 08:47 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >societal damnation from interacting with the outside Nowthat you mention it, I suppose other Lamia might look down on individuals who are to free and open with who and how quickly they make friends. Not necessarily societal damnation, but rather just thinking they're somewhat foolish. [04-Oct-20 08:49 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Regardless of the fact that it's untrue, the common Lamia probably looks at Merchants as quite daring at best, or as a daredevil who will get himself stolen from or killed at worst. [04-Oct-20 10:09 AM] Attmouse#2447 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762360749996769286/v07iqhba09551.png [04-Oct-20 10:11 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 :meow: [04-Oct-20 10:47 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Given the insular and distrustful nature of Lamia, how would they view books? With suspicion? Assuming literacy was even common for them pre konvergence. Maybe they would only trust it's contents either after much deliberation and review of it, or more likely, they wouldn't buy it unless a trusted merchant or other associate or relation of theirs vouched for it. [04-Oct-20 10:48 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And speaking of, Lamia not generally being very trusting, especially toward outright outsiders, is another layer of rationale behind Samantha Ekans being a sheriff @Battlebrothermichael XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Fucking Kevin Goddamnit10/04/2020 Anyway uh, I feel that most Lamia estates don't have dedicated merchants, and that tgere are merchant families here and there that do the bulk of non-neighborbood trading XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [04-Oct-20 12:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Alright well, I imagine they turn that rather common national skill into fairly common baubles and trinkets. They probably produce mirrors in their low-tech tribal industry fashion much more than most, if not all, other races do. I imagined most metal bowls have a high polish to them when they're new. I imagine their polishing and lacquer making skills translate very well to wood finishing, so they might be better at that than many races. [04-Oct-20 12:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine hanging hollow brass balls shined to a very very high polish, to the point where they're reflective, above doorways might be common. A not-that-expensive piece of unmatched beauty in a world otherwise dominated by rampant animals and nearly-unchecked creeping jungle vegetation. [04-Oct-20 12:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Brass, copper, maybe even tin, really, if they have sources of tin. [04-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Do Lamia farm [04-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 I could use this in my main story have Dooser to have been cast out of his village for being TOO much of a hustler he wandered for a few days, got picked up by the succubus fertility cult, ran off, fast forward about 4 years, he winds up on Earth once BC and the gang get to Fankasia, they pass through his old village villagers recognize D and tell them all to get fucked violent action may ensue [04-Oct-20 12:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I want to turn a Lamia farm girl into a snake factory tbh [04-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Once I get her she'll never wear shoes again. {Reactions} happyharpy (4) (4) [04-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Or is their Jurassic Park version of Vietnam more like the Amazon in the sense that it would be fertile as fuck but would quickly get depleted if farmed [04-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, kinda. [04-Oct-20 12:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, no [04-Oct-20 12:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like, Vietnam's farm lands IRL are REALLLLY fertile specifically because of seasonal flooding and other bullshit. [04-Oct-20 12:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Some regions without that aren't quite so fertile, but a lot of Vietnam is exactly that. Super fertile flood plains. [04-Oct-20 12:33 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So it doesn't get depleted? If it does maybe they could use different farming techniques [04-Oct-20 12:33 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Because all of the land is intersected by Deltas and rivers (at least in the south) Its fertile as it can get. [04-Oct-20 12:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So it is very resistant to getting depleted, especially in a natural.. or rather, a traditional farming method. [04-Oct-20 12:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >south Middle and even North to a lesser extent. Place is gucci for farming. [04-Oct-20 12:34 PM] Wargunlock#0868 North has deserts and shit like cambodia IIRC [04-Oct-20 12:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And even if that were the case, I imagine the Lamia's land holdings for individual estates are really quite big. They could probably rotate their crop fields and allow them to fallow for very very long periods of time. [04-Oct-20 12:35 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Are Lamias pretty intelligent? [04-Oct-20 12:35 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Like are they less intelligent than white people or more intelligent than white people? [04-Oct-20 12:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Outcast from his village Keep in mind I'm only talking about Vietlamia for the time being, 8-track. There's also large-ish Lamia presence elsewhere in the world, specifically the American South West. [04-Oct-20 12:35 PM] Wargunlock#0868 They would place high in spatial memory, waxmaking, stonecutting and tunneldigging are all things that require high spatial intelligence. [04-Oct-20 12:36 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 very true, kevin [04-Oct-20 12:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Lamias pretty intelligent I'd call them human average with a few very specific things they're worse or better at. [04-Oct-20 12:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like I imagine when it comes to instincts for hunting, which one could call natural talent, they'd be better at that as a whole. [04-Oct-20 12:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Some individuals being shit at it, sure, but most, better than human average [04-Oct-20 12:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 More over, Harpy and I haven't hit the racial issue too hard yet, other than to say that the Royalty are very light skinned, usually, in addition to having wonderfully beautiful snake-parts with a natural shine and luster similar to a high quality silk. [04-Oct-20 12:38 PM] Wargunlock#0868 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_intelligence_(psychology) {Embed} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_intelligence_(psychology) Spatial intelligence (psychology) Spatial intelligence is an area in the theory of multiple intelligences that deals with spatial judgment and the ability to visualize with the mind's eye. It is defined by Howard Gardner as a human computational capacity that provides the ability or mental skill to solve spat... [04-Oct-20 12:38 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Their gardens would look weird, lots of space to move between the rows [04-Oct-20 12:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which lead to Rich non-royalty wanting to emulate their Kings, which lead to draping themselves in silk but that's a little faggy so they went to lacquers, waxes, and polishing to mimic the look. [04-Oct-20 12:38 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Since they have fat fucking tails that would flatten crops [04-Oct-20 12:38 PM] mothman#1742 i would imagine the lamia royalty would also have lighter skin because they arent outside working a bunch [04-Oct-20 12:38 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Wait [04-Oct-20 12:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, kind of. Though keep in mind all their farming, in entirety prior to Konvergence, is very old style manual labor. [04-Oct-20 12:39 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Are they going to have long Chinese aristocrat nails? [04-Oct-20 12:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah but that's a temporary non-genetic thing, in that case, Moffman. [04-Oct-20 12:39 PM] mothman#1742 :dread: [04-Oct-20 12:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Na because those nails are cringe, is my statement on that. [04-Oct-20 12:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine Harpy would agree, as he also hates the chinkoids. [04-Oct-20 12:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which was one of our shared concerns when initially talking about Lamia's and their Vietnamese influences. [04-Oct-20 12:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, it's notable that Lamia's ground-pressure would be pretty low. Maybe 100 pounds or less. [04-Oct-20 12:40 PM] mothman#1742 asian snakes [04-Oct-20 12:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, not that great, but actually prolly less than humans in most cases. [04-Oct-20 12:40 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762398766741323776/s320x240.jpg [04-Oct-20 12:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 :unnerved: [04-Oct-20 12:40 PM] mothman#1742 :barf: [04-Oct-20 12:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could see them using shit like that as tail-caps tbh. {Reactions} GoldForTheKindStranger (2) [04-Oct-20 12:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Fancy shit to affix onto the very ends of their tails. Or for rich niggas to do, at least. [04-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Chink aristocrats were proud of their long nails because it meant they didn't have to do menial labor like a peasant [04-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So they had nail protectors [04-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They're really big into wicker, I imagine their gold working and copper working is often similar to it, for shit like the tail caps. [04-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762399033477169192/il_570xN.899266227_hls5.jpg [04-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Kinda like this [04-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I fucking hate chinks. [04-Oct-20 12:41 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Or this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762399076498538497/H21365-L170440233.jpg [04-Oct-20 12:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 My nails have gotten long lately since I've stopped biting them casually as I thought about things, and I hate it. Filed them down to nothing, like I like, the other day. [04-Oct-20 12:42 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762399208354742302/New-Chinese-Ancient-Long-Nail-Ring-Fingernails-Joint-Armour-Knuckle-Finger-Ring-Cosplay-Fancy-Dress.jpg [04-Oct-20 12:42 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Ching chong bing bong [04-Oct-20 12:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 kill chinks. [04-Oct-20 12:43 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762399441335746610/cixi.jpg [04-Oct-20 12:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, they're big, so they might very well have to have especially wide rows. They certainly have taller and wider tunnels than we would expect [04-Oct-20 12:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Though I imagine they're able to crawl down low way better than we can. Maybe without even having their human part even touch the ground, if they're fit enough. [04-Oct-20 12:44 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 They can stand on their tails, which are quite strong [04-Oct-20 12:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup, though no exercise would of course make them weak, especially if we're talking about a weird physical position that they simply don't do often. [04-Oct-20 12:44 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 How far forwards can they bend [04-Oct-20 12:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, what do you mean far forwards. [04-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Like bending over to tend to crops Thanks to their tail they'd be able to go pretty far [04-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ah, yes. [04-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Quite able to do so [04-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Though it's probably unpleasant ish if they're not used to it. [04-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So they'd have wider paths but larger areas between them in their fields/gardens [04-Oct-20 12:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Imagine you strap your legs to a table and you have to support your entire body, from your groin to your head, all with your muscles, doing the plant position basically. [04-Oct-20 12:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If you aren't strong generally, or aren't used to that position specifically, you'd prolly suck at it. [04-Oct-20 12:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia wouldn't suck as bad, but they'd still suck at it if they weren't strong or used to it. [04-Oct-20 12:46 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I think they'd be pretty decent at it [04-Oct-20 12:46 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 It would make their tails a lot more useful [04-Oct-20 12:46 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Instead of them just being dead weight [04-Oct-20 12:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They're tails are p. useful already. For instance, they can carry quite a bit of weight along their tails without too much issue. It tires them out more than us I imagine, since crawling on the ground is prolly inefficient comparatively, but they can still do it. [04-Oct-20 12:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Carrying 150 pounds of bricks with them to the wall building project instead of only 30 - 50. [04-Oct-20 12:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Besides that their tails are also incredibly dangerous offensive weapons. If a Lamia slaps you with it's tail there's a good chance you'd die, if they meant it hard. [04-Oct-20 12:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And despite carrying that heavy weight, if it's packed onto them correctly, it only barely increases their ground pressure. [04-Oct-20 12:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Each segment of Lamia tail would be equivalent to like... 100 pounds, give or take, for a heavy lamia. Less for a light one. [04-Oct-20 12:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So it's possible that for some certain land mines, they wouldn't even detonate for Lamia. [04-Oct-20 12:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 (though.... ethat idea has some problems with it too so don't take it too seriously.) [04-Oct-20 12:49 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 If they could stand on their tails that would give them a lot more mobility [04-Oct-20 12:49 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Kinda like a cobra can [04-Oct-20 12:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Define "stand on their tails" better. [04-Oct-20 12:50 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762401237961670666/snouted-cobra-standing-tall-picture-id182504794.jpg [04-Oct-20 12:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Right, I understand that [04-Oct-20 12:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but you need to better define it, [04-Oct-20 12:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 do you mean to say their human parts standing? Becuase yes, they certainly can. [04-Oct-20 12:50 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Not just the human parts, but also a tail segment underneath it [04-Oct-20 12:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Do you mean their snake parts extending up to put their human parts higher? If so, yes, they can, but only so much. [04-Oct-20 12:51 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Having them just have a human body coming out 90 degrees of their tail on the ground would be retarded [04-Oct-20 12:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 We've already got it so there's 2-ish feet of snake part that comfortably acts as the human part's "legs", sorta kinda. I imagine they could extend that higher, but that it would be uncomfortable. Cobra-Lamia could probably do it, [04-Oct-20 12:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and I did intend there to be a few families of semi-inbred Cobra Lamia actually, that act as the main War niggas in Vietlamia. [04-Oct-20 12:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So they could probably do that even better. [04-Oct-20 12:52 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762401672067547136/621007-dfe5b3e4-37ed-11e4-a694-451fbd592c5f.jpg [04-Oct-20 12:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >would be retarded Yee, but they're not evolved, they're basically creations by their unironic snake god. [04-Oct-20 12:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Blame him. [04-Oct-20 12:52 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762401828667129865/7326105764e9460e915ac8.jpg [04-Oct-20 12:52 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Dude [04-Oct-20 12:53 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 That's retarded because you can't have part of their body be 90 degrees like that [04-Oct-20 12:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said yeah they can extend their shit but it's probably somewhat uncomfortable and unnatural. Like if you were to stand on your tip-toes all day long. Eventually you'd get good at it, great at it maybe, but that's not something their biology is really intended for in most cases. [04-Oct-20 12:53 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 It just looks silly [04-Oct-20 12:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Dude, snakes can do it, why can't these lamia do it too????" [04-Oct-20 12:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 based contributions Chimbo, just based. [04-Oct-20 12:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Snakes also can't digest grapefruit but you can be sure these niggas can. [04-Oct-20 12:55 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 How can Lamia be about as tall as humans if they don't stand on their tails [04-Oct-20 12:56 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 It'll just look like a body coming out of the ground with a tail attached to its ass [04-Oct-20 12:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like I said, they stand on 2 or 3 feet of their tail like they would legs [04-Oct-20 12:57 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So they do stand on their tails then Ok [04-Oct-20 12:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's ass is as high as the ass of a somewhat-tall person today, and then beneath it is tail. [04-Oct-20 12:57 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 I thought you meant they didn't [04-Oct-20 12:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee nigga I said that 5 minutes ago [04-Oct-20 12:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Incidentally, [04-Oct-20 12:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They have asses, [04-Oct-20 12:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 some of them are fat, [04-Oct-20 12:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but the shit-hole is near the end of their tails. [04-Oct-20 12:58 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So the ass is just muscle [04-Oct-20 12:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Muscle and a good way to attract mates, and perhaps more importantly, how their Snake God made them. [04-Oct-20 12:59 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Can their snake god fly [04-Oct-20 12:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm not sure. Maybe. He's supposed to be both huge, and white. [04-Oct-20 12:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Harpy and I have just called him the White Snake so far. [04-Oct-20 01:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762403745072939028/unknown.png [04-Oct-20 01:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 oh wait that was spoilered before [04-Oct-20 01:00 PM] mothman#1742 lmao [04-Oct-20 01:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762403922391728149/SPOILER_unknown.png [04-Oct-20 01:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 There we go. [04-Oct-20 01:01 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 So she fucked a snake That wouldn't be the weirdest creation story if you take the turks into account [04-Oct-20 01:02 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Their origin story involves a dude fucking a wolf, making them all furries [04-Oct-20 01:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Attmouse I like your suggestions, they make good sense and reinforce some of the main points of Lamias. [04-Oct-20 01:02 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 But they're proud of it, they have nationalist groups called the grey wolves or shit like that [04-Oct-20 01:02 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also fucking hell that must have taken you forever to read [04-Oct-20 01:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >so she fucked a snake Eh, not necessarily. But kinda. [04-Oct-20 01:02 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 one culture's cringe is another culture's based [04-Oct-20 01:03 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 such is reality [04-Oct-20 01:03 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Cringe can be objective [04-Oct-20 01:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like China. [04-Oct-20 01:03 PM] Bob_the_Builder#7041 Turks are objectively cringe [04-Oct-20 01:03 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 correct to both [04-Oct-20 01:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh [04-Oct-20 01:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Asia as a whole is full of not-really-any-civilizations. [04-Oct-20 01:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Straw huts here and there, sure, [04-Oct-20 01:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but mostly no real nations. City-states sometimes, very rarely, but it's a lot of tribal niggas. [04-Oct-20 01:05 PM] mothman#1742 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit like the drifters and the hasharat kabira [04-Oct-20 01:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The Lamias are some of the only really civilized groups, they have a proper nation that's defined and has proper borders and all that [04-Oct-20 01:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Drifters and hasaramst whombira? [04-Oct-20 01:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @TruFear drifters [04-Oct-20 01:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, these factors make asia as a whole really appealing to Dragons. They got here, they make great mounds or hoards, they lay huge clutches of eggs [04-Oct-20 01:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 These eggs wake up semi randomly over hundreds of years, often times when the mama dragon's asleep or off doing shit far away for many decades. When they do wake up they're retarded basically-animals. There's some rudimentary intelligence, and their intelligence gradually develops, but at the start they're terribly retarded and violent. {Reactions} Jerry [04-Oct-20 01:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which is why Dragons don't shit these niggers out right next to Strong Kingdom #325235, because all their children will be hunted down and exterminated. [04-Oct-20 01:08 PM] mothman#1742 @Battlebrothermichael are manticors or sphynx's in fanksia supposed to be intelligent ? [04-Oct-20 01:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Their children being killed? No problem, I've got 999 more. Their *entire clutch* being exterminated? Oh shit oh fuck. [04-Oct-20 01:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, point is, the Lamia's whole deal is their Snake God slew all the dragons and the clutches in Vietlamia and the shit's relatively safe now. They only have to deal with dragon incursions, rather than local dragon awakenings. [04-Oct-20 01:10 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Ah yeah we were talking about this last time Kevin. [04-Oct-20 01:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @mothman I would say that yes, they are very intelligent [04-Oct-20 01:13 PM] Wargunlock#0868 110iq on average? [04-Oct-20 01:13 PM] mothman#1742 ok, now would they go into the same classification as griffons ? [04-Oct-20 01:13 PM] mothman#1742 like chimaric creatures [04-Oct-20 01:14 PM] mothman#1742 or would griffons be considered wyverns [04-Oct-20 01:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I listened to a lot of Whitesnake hoping it would be good [04-Oct-20 01:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's not bad but it's not good either. [04-Oct-20 01:16 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 Whitesnake is one of those rare bands where their best of album, actually ARE the best songs they have [04-Oct-20 01:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 give me your best whitesnake song 8track [04-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 Still of The Night hands down [04-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 ^ [04-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Punished Zingus#4552 deffy [04-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Now I just want to get close to you An' taste your love so sweet And I just want to make love to you Feel your body heat" [04-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Very Snake-y. [04-Oct-20 01:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 When I think of Dad Rock I think of the Vietnam war and I get sad. [04-Oct-20 01:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Poor ARVN. [04-Oct-20 01:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, yeah, speaking of which then [04-Oct-20 01:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the White Snake. Giant snake, bigger than Lamia are, certainly, and no human parts involved. [04-Oct-20 01:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Somehow he defeated all the Dragons. [04-Oct-20 01:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 IIRC we were talking about how he used... stealth? to do it? [04-Oct-20 01:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I think the gist is that through guile and cunning, but not jewishness, he tracked down where the dragon spawn was coming from and snuck in to eat all the eggs. [04-Oct-20 01:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And after he did so he fucked some human broads to cap off the productive day. [04-Oct-20 01:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The broad-fucking may or may not be actually part of this. Very well might not be, tbh. [04-Oct-20 01:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But he certainly did somehow create his Lamias. He created the royal niggas, of which the king is viewed as a Demigod despite being mortal like anybody else, albeit perhaps with special magics, [04-Oct-20 01:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and he also created the normal Lamia, which populate the land and usually have a drop or two of royal blood at the most, very diluted. {Reactions} itstime (2) [04-Oct-20 01:35 PM] Coastie#3790 Dragons like to kidnap maidens. Have we determined that dragons can shapeshift? [04-Oct-20 01:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And, to restate this, Royal blooded niggas have very beautiful scales. Luminous, glossy, shiny, a sense that the color is much deeper than normal lamia coloration. Not deeper as in darker, but deeper as in there's much more to see. [04-Oct-20 01:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Really lustrous ass niggas. [04-Oct-20 01:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Coastie iirc dragons can polymorph into elf like creatures [04-Oct-20 01:36 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ [04-Oct-20 01:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >elf like creatures Like, [04-Oct-20 01:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Elves? Or [04-Oct-20 01:38 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 they look like elves, in that they're bipedal, 5-digit feet and hands, pointy ears, lustrous faces but then they have horns, bright reptilian eyes, fire breath, among other things [04-Oct-20 01:38 PM] Coastie#3790 Maybe the royal lamia's blood has some dragon in it to make it all fancy? {Reactions} Jerry [04-Oct-20 01:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, [04-Oct-20 01:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the thing is the White Snake fucking hates dragon shits [04-Oct-20 01:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Fucking hates those niggers unironically eats their fucking babies [04-Oct-20 01:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Nigga walks up to a pregnant dragon, punches her in the stomach, yoinks all the eggs that fall out, and makes himself a denver omelet, nigga [04-Oct-20 01:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 you think he likes dragon pussy bro???? [04-Oct-20 01:39 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 I agree with Kevin snek hate dragon stupid gay faggot overgrown salamanders [04-Oct-20 01:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That, and Dragons occasionally - Well, the young retarded dragons that is - occasionally fly into their lands and fuck up everything [04-Oct-20 01:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but these are the basically baby/children dragons [04-Oct-20 01:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 These are the ones where if you gave them a nubile young maid he'd have her read him bed time stories instead of a place to store his surplus cum [04-Oct-20 01:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or more likely just eat her and then anything else in front of him made of meat [04-Oct-20 01:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 All that being said, @Battlebrothermichael -kun, can the White Snake fly? [04-Oct-20 01:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm thinking maybe not. [04-Oct-20 01:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably not [04-Oct-20 01:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More slither like lightning [04-Oct-20 01:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Slither for sure, but, are you sayin' dis nigga can project himself into the sky? [04-Oct-20 01:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could see him like [04-Oct-20 01:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 bound up into the sky with his massive tail and strength [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Coastie#3790 He was fast like lightning. So the God's made him so [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Coastie#3790 ? [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 >springs so hard, it's like '30s Superman, leaping over tall buildings in a single bound, but not full-on flight [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Gods made him so I'm not sure he's not just a literal god himself [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe not project himself into the sky, more so just launching himself very feat [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lunging {Reactions} [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 He's unironically a Giant snake, for starters [04-Oct-20 01:42 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 lunging, yes, that's the word [04-Oct-20 01:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, what was his deal? [04-Oct-20 01:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 He would walk over Asia and meme around, eat some dinosaurs sometimes, etc [04-Oct-20 01:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and then dragon shits came and he was pissed off about this [04-Oct-20 01:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 He was taking a nap one day in his tunnels and suddenly hte roof started giving in and an immature Dragon started trying to gnaw on my nigga whitesnake [04-Oct-20 01:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So he immediately flailed around and broke the thing's neck, and went back to sleep. [04-Oct-20 01:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The next day, two more immature dragons came upon him, and did the same thing, and this fight was a little more difficult but he still came out of it fine. [04-Oct-20 01:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not one to ignore a problem twice in a row, he got up from his slumber to look around, and found Baby dragons all over the place. Burning down forests, boiling his favorite river and killing all the fish inside, taking massive dragon dumps all over the place like pajeets [04-Oct-20 01:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And then... he sees the mother Dragon. She's bigger, by a lot, tougher, by a lot, than her babies. She finds her dead babies, and being a dragon, only cares minorly about what happened. She has 997 left, of course. [04-Oct-20 01:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So she flies back to her nest. White Snake stealthily follows her. Hiding in the jungles, under the canopies, in the rivers and the reeds, and even through tunnels. He slithers into her lair and looks around. He finds many hundreds of eggs, he finds the mama dragon, and ultimately sees all the sources of his problems. He waits for her to enter her great slumber, as Dragons do, and as White Snake partakes in from time to time as well. [04-Oct-20 01:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 He sneaks up to her, coils around her, and by the time she awakens he's got her in a death grip. Bites into her neck and uses his body to grip and squeeze the life out from her. [04-Oct-20 01:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Then, he eats all the eggs. Many hundreds of these eggs. He eats them all, all that were remaining, anyway. He's stuffed to bursting, and he makes the slow journey back to his home, away from this dragon shitheap made out of gay cringe and to the warm fertile clay fields of the lowlands and the deltas. [04-Oct-20 01:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Along the way he's harassed by many small dragon niggers, but he's too tired after eating such a large meal to do much, so he mostly just sneaks around and eludes them. He makes it back home, and feels a great nap over taking him, so he makes the Lamia, to protect him as he naps, and to kill all the remaining dragon shits flying around. A hundred or less, maybe. [04-Oct-20 01:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And then there's further creation myths that separate the royal niggas from the peasant Lamia. [04-Oct-20 01:52 PM] Coastie#3790 Eating of the eggs could take days or months, the dragon blood changed him? [04-Oct-20 01:52 PM] Coastie#3790 Digesting* [04-Oct-20 01:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Na. No more than eating these sweet potatoes is going to change a Lamia into a sweet potato. [04-Oct-20 01:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 He just made the first batch with a very clear and focused intent. [04-Oct-20 01:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The next batch was made hurriedly. Fine, y'know. Good. But not quite so beautiful, without quite so much focus, since he had to be roused from his sleep by the Royals to even do it. [04-Oct-20 01:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Each baby dragon's the size of a school bus, we can assume the eggs aren't much smaller if any, so that's *quite* a big meal. [04-Oct-20 01:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The Festivals specifically honoring the White Snake are probably really big on egg dishes, considering. [04-Oct-20 01:58 PM] Coastie#3790 The lamias would love chickens [04-Oct-20 01:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 He'll yeah br0ther [04-Oct-20 01:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I wonder if they pickle eggs. [04-Oct-20 01:59 PM] Coastie#3790 Certainly. [04-Oct-20 01:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia need like 17,000 calories a day, and they prefer by far to eat all of that in one big meal, around lunch time. [04-Oct-20 01:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 One acre of sweet potatoes can support 1.7 Lamia per year, I believe it works out to be. [04-Oct-20 02:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >one egg has only 75 calories Whoa. [04-Oct-20 02:01 PM] Coastie#3790 Chickens or a reptilian equivalent would provide superb bug and small pest control while also shitting out eggs [04-Oct-20 02:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hell yeah. I'm trying to figure out how Lamia meals would be structured [04-Oct-20 02:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 because they need a *lot* of staple foods in their meals [04-Oct-20 02:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would it be like... one really good human-tier meal, lots of different shit in that and all, [04-Oct-20 02:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lots of breads from their lands [04-Oct-20 02:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and then shit bowls and bowls and bowls of rice and sweet potato and shit? [04-Oct-20 02:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Carb heavy [04-Oct-20 02:04 PM] Coastie#3790 Raw eggs have all the nutrients a human needs all prepackaged in an easily digestible form [04-Oct-20 02:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [04-Oct-20 02:04 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a drink made with raw eggs? [04-Oct-20 02:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >subtropical eggnog [04-Oct-20 02:05 PM] Coastie#3790 Eggnog? [04-Oct-20 02:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Subtropical eggnog [04-Oct-20 02:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Go on.... [04-Oct-20 02:05 PM] Coastie#3790 Cinnamon is native to Vietnam. [04-Oct-20 02:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe has a slurry from the fast growing sugar cane in it? [04-Oct-20 02:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhhhh [04-Oct-20 02:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well... They've already got loads of spices, right? Cinnamon, nutmeg, etc? [04-Oct-20 02:06 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >mix sugar slurry with raw egg, Water buffalo cream, cinnamon, nutmeg, and other spices [04-Oct-20 02:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Do they actually process the sugar cane into granulated sugar? [04-Oct-20 02:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or do they just molasses' it up [04-Oct-20 02:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also don't they have easy access to Vanilla, too? [04-Oct-20 02:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinking early on that one of the major exports from Vietlamia might be spices. [04-Oct-20 02:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think they would just straight molasses it [04-Oct-20 02:07 PM] Coastie#3790 Molasses would be easier. [04-Oct-20 02:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, like, a human breakfast right [04-Oct-20 02:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Two eggs, a rasher or two of bacon, some good ass toast with some butter [04-Oct-20 02:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 maybe a glass of orange juice or some milk [04-Oct-20 02:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and a nigga's set af until lunch or maybe even an early dinner. [04-Oct-20 02:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia though? They would need to eat waaaaaay more than just that. I can rationalize spending XYZ time making orange juice if it's benefit to my meal is great. [04-Oct-20 02:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But one glass of orange juice, what's that to a Lamia when she's scarfing down, what... Literally 7 or 8 times the food I am? Hell, come to think of it, no [04-Oct-20 02:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 more like uhh.... 21 times the food I am, in that sitting. [04-Oct-20 02:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Makes me wonder if the first part of the meal would be the shittier more staple foods, and the last bit of the meal would be the more delectable things, or if they'd just try hard to make every single component delectable. [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think the inverse [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Coastie#3790 I think it'll depend on the meal setting [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like how the old parties did it with wine [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Washu mean Coaster-kun? [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 You served the good stuff first so everyone got to enjoy the flavor of that [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Coastie#3790 This^ [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, I could see that approach. [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Then the mediocre filler stuff later after everyone had their fill of the good stuff [04-Oct-20 02:11 PM] Coastie#3790 Also saki [04-Oct-20 02:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But I personally alwys enjoy a meal more when the last bite is as good or better than the starting ones. [04-Oct-20 02:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Regrettable when the last bite happens to be the worst part of the steak or the meatloaf or w/e. [04-Oct-20 02:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Saki Yee. Snake wine. [04-Oct-20 02:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe it could be circular? [04-Oct-20 02:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fancy meats and all that at first [04-Oct-20 02:12 PM] Coastie#3790 This is called dessert. Pickled eggs for all [04-Oct-20 02:12 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Then the filler carbs [04-Oct-20 02:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ahh, I could see that, yeah. [04-Oct-20 02:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Then end with a tasty desert [04-Oct-20 02:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 First course is the great shit, middle is the mundane but important shit, and then the end is more of the great shit. [04-Oct-20 02:13 PM] Coastie#3790 So Good stuff Ok stuff Great stuff {Reactions} happyharpy (2) [04-Oct-20 02:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, I like that well enoug. [04-Oct-20 02:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s perfect Coastie [04-Oct-20 02:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I suppose they might be really big on soups, too. [04-Oct-20 02:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Soups and stews are fairly easy and very high volume [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Coastie#3790 And it's not like they are lacking water. [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Soups are popular is Asian culture because of that [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Mmmm [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What Asians do irl a lot is incorporate egg in fucking everything [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 also in soups [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fimsh soump [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 HEY [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 CLAMS [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 MUSCLES [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 OYSTERS [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Coastie#3790 Shrimp and crawdads [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Although do keep in mind that'd be like the dessert side of things. [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lamia clam chowder made with water buffalo cream, served with sweet potato bread [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’m hungry now [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Since it takes so mcuh time to harvest them [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sweet potato bread pill me. [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Shrimp and Crawdads [04-Oct-20 02:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 YES [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 uhhh [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also howmst do they store sweet potatoes for long times or winter and shit [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’ve never heard of sweet potato bread [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But I’ve heard of potato bread [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So I *ASSUME* you could do something similar [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 SP bread exists [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Coastie#3790 Would they do gumbo? Also okra grow stupid fast [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm. [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhhh [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Okra pill me. [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia gumbo [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Gumbo would prolly be lit yee [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Gumbo is super calorie dense and hearty [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ~~there’s a reason why so many blacks have heart disease~~ [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Gumbo pill me speaking of which. [04-Oct-20 02:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ~~southern cooking isn’t healthy~~ [04-Oct-20 02:17 PM] Coastie#3790 Fried okra is awesome. You have to pick the okra before it gets finger length or it gets hard and non edible It grows about, in my experience, 1-3 inches a day [04-Oct-20 02:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 GUMBO {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762423270829850644/image0.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762423271198687242/image1.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762423271618510938/image2.jpg [04-Oct-20 02:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Coastie fucking hell yeah, fried Okra is delicious. Reminds me of a zucchini with a stronger texture [04-Oct-20 02:18 PM] Coastie#3790 Also for some reason paper wasps love to hang around it [04-Oct-20 02:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Whoa [04-Oct-20 02:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Okra sounds lit [04-Oct-20 02:19 PM] Coastie#3790 Some people hate it due to it's texture. [04-Oct-20 02:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Whoa, so gumbo is fucking what, thick-ass stew with meat and rice? [04-Oct-20 02:19 PM] Coastie#3790 It's modern porrage [04-Oct-20 02:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Looks like it's got a lot of everything in it. [04-Oct-20 02:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm thinking a big bowl of gumbo, and several big bowls of rice and or sweet potato of some type. [04-Oct-20 02:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Root tuber growing is apparently super efficient to grow, space and in most ways work-to-calories [04-Oct-20 02:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, sweet potato farming works out to be 70,000 calories per day per hectare, and a hectare is like 2 and a half or 2.7 or something acres. [04-Oct-20 02:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 one acre would ultimately work out to enough to fully feed 1.7 lamia [04-Oct-20 02:22 PM] Coastie#3790 Ok so we got: Sweet potatoes fries, gumbo, eggs, potato bread, saki, clams, shrimp, crawdads, rice upon rice, eggs, soups, meats, carrots, squash, [04-Oct-20 02:22 PM] Coastie#3790 Fruits and sugars [04-Oct-20 02:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 sweet potatoes upon sweet potatoes, as well as lots and lots of spice cultivation [04-Oct-20 02:23 PM] Coastie#3790 Pies [04-Oct-20 02:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Either on every Lamia estate (Basically large sprawling land owned by specific Clans, in a sense.) there'd be lots of spice cultivation, or one group of Lamia in the region would focus and specialize on that and do a lot of trading with the other Lamia [04-Oct-20 02:25 PM] Coastie#3790 They'll probably have their own spice gardens or harvest them wild [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wait a minute [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia have an American attitude [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Vietnamese culture/aesthetic [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But their cooking is heavily southern [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :sex: [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Diversity at its finest [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They need *t h e c a l o r i e* [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Chimbo#3420 unity because it's all at once [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I wonder if they ever even fuck with cheese [04-Oct-20 02:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *SNEK C A L O R I E* [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Chimbo#3420 they aren't diverse [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ||it was a joke|| [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Water buffalo cheese? [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmm [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Probably would work [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It may, but [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 that's also a lot of investment ultimately. [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Coastie#3790 It just means we did something right instead of just ripping X culture off wholesale {Reactions} itstime (2) [04-Oct-20 02:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would they prefer to use the milk fresh / make egg nog with it / use it in certain dishes where it's necessary [04-Oct-20 02:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 instead of just *c h e e s e* [04-Oct-20 02:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Welll [04-Oct-20 02:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Cheese helps preserve the milk [04-Oct-20 02:28 PM] Coastie#3790 Milk doesn't keep long, especially in those climates [04-Oct-20 02:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, but they need to preserve their harvests, not necessarily their milk I'd think. [04-Oct-20 02:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Cheese is also super calorie dense since it’s just fats [04-Oct-20 02:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And there's no shortage of thirsty mouths when it comes to milk in a Lamia estate I'm sure. [04-Oct-20 02:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A small slice of provolone has about 120 calories in it [04-Oct-20 02:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Cheese could be rarer because it’s the leftover milk? [04-Oct-20 02:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Basically what I'm thinking. Cheese is to deal with too much milk firstly, and because it's really tasty secondly, historically, right? [04-Oct-20 02:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And the idea of Lamia leftovers is a hard thing to picture [04-Oct-20 02:32 PM] Chimbo#3420 Cheese is good [04-Oct-20 02:32 PM] Chimbo#3420 Great way to preserve milk protein [04-Oct-20 02:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ayy, how does recommended caloric intake work if you're just a merchant on your ass all day? [04-Oct-20 02:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 IRL, would a nigga *need* 2,000 calories then? [04-Oct-20 02:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The 2,000 calories thing is a baseline sedentary lifestyle with only limited exercise [04-Oct-20 02:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 2,000 calories to maintain your weight [04-Oct-20 02:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Soooo [04-Oct-20 02:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Is 17,000 baseline to maintain weight? [04-Oct-20 02:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or is that if they are working hard in the fields? [04-Oct-20 02:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 oof [04-Oct-20 02:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I based the 17k on the 2k [04-Oct-20 02:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm doing some loose research on snake locomotion and it's apparently both a more complex topic than it sounds, as well as not being all that efficient energy-wise. [04-Oct-20 02:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe the 17,000 is for an average lamia? [04-Oct-20 02:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And on average, they do a lot of work [04-Oct-20 02:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Subs for the smerchents they just need half? [04-Oct-20 02:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or even a third? [04-Oct-20 02:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Since little to no movement? [04-Oct-20 02:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 8,500 a day? [04-Oct-20 02:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Just a few plates of food at Chili’s and they would be fine [04-Oct-20 02:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, maybe. Though the idea was Snakes have such and such times human mass, so they'd need such and such times calories. [04-Oct-20 03:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And that's at the uh, keeping their weight thing [04-Oct-20 03:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Looks like hard manual labor normally requires 50 - 100 percent increase in caloric intake. [04-Oct-20 03:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So a caloric need of 25,500 per day, roughly, if there's hard physical labor being done. [04-Oct-20 03:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said traditional farming had a lot of down time afaik, so really strenuous days might not be *that* common [04-Oct-20 03:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Some types of snake movement are actually more efficient but those aren't the ones you commonly see, and many snakes don't do them at all, apparently? [04-Oct-20 03:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 At any rate, I would imagine Smerchents get paid in food a lot of the time. Lamia may not be friendly but they are kind, I imagine, and would either give food to a needy Smerchent who wasn't able to make any sales-for-food that day, and is too far away from his merchant family to eat with them, or would at least be willing to trade food for something as a favor. {Reactions} happyharpy [04-Oct-20 03:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So for 2,000 calories, that's... 43 pounds of sweet potatoes. Or roughly three bags of baking potatoes, for a weight comparison. [04-Oct-20 03:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also apparently one is able to store sweet potatoes pretty well over long term if they have somewhere relatively cool and moisture is kept off them. *Especially* if sunlight is kept off them. [04-Oct-20 03:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “Yep, that microwave is worth about... 40lbs of sweet potatoes.” [04-Oct-20 03:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also apparently they, as in irl farmer niggas, would 'cure' the sweet potatoes in some cases before storing them away. [04-Oct-20 03:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Harvest them during a very dry period, make sure they don't get knicked while doing so, and let them dry from 10 - 14 days in a warm place with high humidity [04-Oct-20 03:14 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 After that keep them in a cool area wrapped in a way where light won't get on'm and bam, you've got some pretty long lasting food stuffs without much effort involved. [04-Oct-20 03:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Wait what [04-Oct-20 03:15 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 How the hell does that work? [04-Oct-20 03:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sweet potato farmers are crazy [04-Oct-20 03:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Idunno. Maybe that 10 - 14 day curing period seals them up somehow so they are more resistant to rot and shit later [04-Oct-20 03:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamias would probably have vast underground “curing” stations for the sweet potatoes [04-Oct-20 03:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 As well as massive underground larders for their potato crop [04-Oct-20 03:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. They need heat and humidity for the first curing process so maybe they have curing houses up top for the purpose. S'already kinda hot up there, s'already kinda muggy, easy enough to steam up a room up there if need be [04-Oct-20 03:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Then store'm underground in the larders. [04-Oct-20 03:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they have little tunnel vents in the rooms for the hot air to go up into an attic? [04-Oct-20 03:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hot air and humidity do go up iirc [04-Oct-20 03:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ironically, since >snakes, but, do they have vermin problems? And if so, do they employ tunnel cats for that issue? [04-Oct-20 03:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d expect that they don’t have much vermin problems [04-Oct-20 03:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe bugs [04-Oct-20 03:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, jungle rats and what not trying to get at their sweet potatoes? [04-Oct-20 03:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The rats instinctively know to stay away [04-Oct-20 03:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lamia wants a pet mouse >mouse always has a heart attack by the second day [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >sweet potato bread should taste like pumpkin pie [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 what in the fuck [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I had no idea [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I think Vietnam has Allspice, too [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Oh it's a trip [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Blackhawk342#0955 Sweet potatoes are weird [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >pumpkin pie bread and subtropical eggnog [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :excuseme: [04-Oct-20 03:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I want sweet potato bread now [04-Oct-20 03:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I think this whore on youtube must be exaggerating that [04-Oct-20 03:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 surely if sweet potato bread tasted like pumpkin pie I would have gorged myself on it by now. [04-Oct-20 03:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Actually, I think this all might be flour-dependent [04-Oct-20 03:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And I'm not sure if there are flour alternatives that aren't wheat or things grown very similarly to wheat. [04-Oct-20 03:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 There are flour alternatives [04-Oct-20 03:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [04-Oct-20 03:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Potato flour, starches, etc [04-Oct-20 03:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Most starchy things can be made into a flour [04-Oct-20 03:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, I'm lookin' around at'm. But apparently China had bread back during hte Han Dynasty, which was 200 BC to 200 AD [04-Oct-20 03:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But I'm having trouble finding out if normal niggas in asia ate bread [04-Oct-20 03:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 rich niggas, sure, whatever, but normals? [04-Oct-20 03:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I say all this because none of these sweet potato bread recipes avoid using flour, and it's all either wheat or almond [04-Oct-20 03:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they could have their own recipe for it? [04-Oct-20 03:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not exactly an earth sweet potato bread [04-Oct-20 03:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm. Apparently noodles in chinkland were often made of rice flour so I guess that's the next logical step. [04-Oct-20 03:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The answer I'm getting is: Fuck. [04-Oct-20 03:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Fuck it, they grow wheat sometimes. A life without bread is like a life without orbs. [04-Oct-20 04:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They eat pumpkin pie tasting sweet potato bread and drink heavily spiced eggnog on occasion. [04-Oct-20 04:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I've felt every single second of that 40 minute long goddamned nose dive into the unironic 10,000 year span of south east asian history on grains and farming [04-Oct-20 04:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I suppose everything they make would be hearty and heavy. None of that pissant salt water soup shit. [04-Oct-20 04:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a certain type of fantasy west [04-Oct-20 04:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Even the stuff they know that can't really produce a whole hell of a lot of, is very heavy. If it's a very light snack it's looked at as either not worth making, or something meant to be made in such great quantities that it can be ritualistically wasted. Used in a similar wasteful fashion as throwing rice on weddings or whatever. They'd probably view popcorn similarly, if they had any. [04-Oct-20 04:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, fantasy wheat's an option. I was thinking maybe some kind of reed that can be processed into a wheat flour of sorts. That'll do, I suppose. [04-Oct-20 04:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like rice paddies, but with *t a l l r e e d s* [04-Oct-20 04:09 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 REEEEEEEEE(D) [04-Oct-20 04:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I also learned that the reason they flood rice paddies in traditional farming of it is because it keeps out annoying weeds pretty well [04-Oct-20 04:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 it's not even really necessary to grow rice well. [04-Oct-20 04:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ^^^^ [04-Oct-20 04:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Exactly [04-Oct-20 04:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also bugs [04-Oct-20 04:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because they introduce fish and other things into the water that eat the pests [04-Oct-20 04:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine they make rice alcohols but don't really fux with wheat based shit [04-Oct-20 04:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 instead using that mostly in bread and baked goods generally. [04-Oct-20 04:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 04:13 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Rice alcohol is good [04-Oct-20 04:14 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 One of the better types [04-Oct-20 04:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, how does their national polishing, waxing, and lacquering autism extend to their every day lives? Like I memed before, I iamgine most metalic things would be sold shiny, and they'd look on non-shiny things as lesser. The feeling being if the producer can't even afford to polish it, what else can't they afford to do? [04-Oct-20 04:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 This erroneously may extend into post-konvergence times as well, but prior to that it was mostly a reasonable thing to think, because of the proliferation of skilled polishers in Lamia society. [04-Oct-20 04:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hey [04-Oct-20 04:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They would need to get the wax to polish from somewhere [04-Oct-20 04:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 As common as hat makers were in the 1920's, one could say. [04-Oct-20 04:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What if they have beehives? [04-Oct-20 04:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Think about it [04-Oct-20 04:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, and honey, resultingly. Maybe they fux with uhhh, washu call it, Mead [04-Oct-20 04:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >bees pollinate the crops >make honey and wax [04-Oct-20 04:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >honey provides more calories [04-Oct-20 04:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They probably love that nutty fish sauce I memed about the other day, as well as straight up honey as a condiment sometimes, similar to how we might use butter. [04-Oct-20 04:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hell, if you go to KFC, they use honey exactly like that. [04-Oct-20 04:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Have you ever had cinnamon honey butter? [04-Oct-20 04:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Easy to make [04-Oct-20 04:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Literally honey, cinnamon, and cream [04-Oct-20 04:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They could slather that on the sweet potato bread [04-Oct-20 04:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 based [04-Oct-20 04:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *C A L O R I E S* [04-Oct-20 04:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Normal honey > > > >Fancy ass honey butter [04-Oct-20 04:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could see them doing sort of a meat loaf thing or... like, a shepherd's pie deal, where it's 90 percent sweet potato and seasonings, and 10 percent meats and shit. [04-Oct-20 04:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So even though they've got a lot of that staple, it still tastes pretty good. [04-Oct-20 04:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine bowls of rice being sides to meals would be quite common. [04-Oct-20 04:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hell yes [04-Oct-20 04:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamias pie? [04-Oct-20 04:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >sweet potato chunks, rice, cream sauce, and either chicken or pork in it [04-Oct-20 04:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It'd be like, creamy-ish sweet potato. Mashed potato like, but probably somewhat sweeter and shit. [04-Oct-20 04:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Either pork strips cut very thin laid on top, or layered in the center of it like a lasagna kinda, or diced pork where every bite was guaranteed to have at least one or two cubes of pork in with the large amount of sweet potatoes {Reactions} happyharpy [04-Oct-20 04:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >lamias pie >top layer of mashed sweet potato covered in cheese curds >second layer is a mixed thick stew of rice and either pork or beef with a diced, Okra like vegetable [04-Oct-20 04:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 04:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe it’s a mix of a gumbo and shepherds pie together? [04-Oct-20 04:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could see them literally doing just that [04-Oct-20 04:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Lamia gets a big bowl oft his shepherds pie >Eats some of it >Mama snake or whoever is serving then ladles a bunch of gumbo into the open spot in the center of the bowl [04-Oct-20 04:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It'd be like a bread bowl soup... *in an actual bowl* {Reactions} itstime [04-Oct-20 04:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would the Lamia have major temples outside of the capital, and outside of the Lamia's own private estates? [04-Oct-20 04:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Somewhere for most of the Lamia to go on holy days. Maybe a handful in each region. [04-Oct-20 04:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Staying home to guard the Estate is seen as a punishment for fucking up in some major way. [04-Oct-20 04:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia get all dressed up in their nice clothes, polish and lacquer and wax their scales. [04-Oct-20 04:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Pray to the White Snake to look over their ancestors and themselves, maybe do offerings. Lotta incense. [04-Oct-20 04:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Old structures built all out of quarried and cut stone. Tastefully worked, smooth, but not so much so that it's reflective and gaudy. [04-Oct-20 04:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Statues of the White Snake, expertly painted a very stark white. Maybe a great offering bowl in the shape of a broken dragon egg where they throw offerings. [04-Oct-20 04:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I don’t think they would have major temples outside of the cities [04-Oct-20 04:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe the temple would go *to them* for the major festivals [04-Oct-20 04:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [04-Oct-20 04:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A traveling procession? [04-Oct-20 04:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, why do you feel they wouldn't have temples outside of cities? I'm mostly motivated in this by wanting the jungle temple aesthetic. Water ways where there aren't supposed to be any, creeping vines engulfing the structure, trees growing out of cracks in this place and that, carved Human (Lamia) heads, carved snakes heads [04-Oct-20 04:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Actual snakes inside, and the cool mysterious and dangerous atmosphere this presents and allows. [04-Oct-20 04:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Mainly because of the “no step on snek” idea [04-Oct-20 04:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Might be that, normally, one Lamia estate or two per area, give or take, has major temples like that. Draws in Lamia from all over, gives them some revenue which is always a positive, maybe gets them a lot of good will. [04-Oct-20 04:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because of the power of the church [04-Oct-20 04:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe there is a major temple on its own land? [04-Oct-20 04:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And that temple is equally “no steppy” [04-Oct-20 04:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, the power of the church is the same power that compels them to exist as a country in the first place. The King is a descendent of God, literally [04-Oct-20 05:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They literally worship that nigga, although would probably prefer not to have a country at all. [04-Oct-20 05:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >major temple on it's own land Yeah, or maybe it's the King's land, technically, and is both .... allowing free access to the local snakes, as a gift, as well as giving them some level of responsibility to maintain it. [04-Oct-20 05:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe in the very southern section of the country there's been a long standing Oni incursion, and/or some other problems, and certain areas have been abandoned or otherwise just forced into being unkempt, resulting in the aesthetic I mentioned above. [04-Oct-20 07:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [04-Oct-20 07:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Being plagued by feral Oni tribes down south? [04-Oct-20 07:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Would make them natural enemies [04-Oct-20 07:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. And maybe elsewhere generally. I figure they've got more threats than just the Dragons, and Wargun told me Asia's full of Oni's [04-Oct-20 07:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 What do you think though, King's land here and there, relatively small compared to Lamia estates but still sizable enough, with very well made stone temples built on top that the local Snussy families take care of in some capacity. [04-Oct-20 07:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hhhmmmmm [04-Oct-20 07:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sounds okay to me [04-Oct-20 07:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So what do we have so far on Lamia culture. Very insular and distrusting of outsiders, and there are unwritten rules for how to gain one's trust as a complete outsider. Lots of gift giving and talks over a period of time. The best interrogators actually talk to the outsider and get lots of info and try to judge the person's character, the worst ones just ask variations of "What do you want with us" until the outsider either slips up or the Lamia's satisfied that he hasn't tried attacking or backstabbing anybody yet. A lot of their society requires other people they know to vouch for newcomers. {Reactions} happyharpy (4) [04-Oct-20 07:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Love me' King Love me' shepherd's pie Love me' tunnels Don't loike outsiders Not racist, just don't loike'm. {Reactions} you (3) [04-Oct-20 07:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Betrayals are the worst thing ever, and certain types of betrayal is punishable by law even if there's no monetary or otherwise tangible loss. [04-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hugely no-step-on-snake. Don't like others having authority over them, don't like others trying to stick their noses in their business, don't like being barred from doing what they want in their own land. [04-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Very much so [04-Oct-20 07:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Due to cultural influence, many would accept death before imprisonment. [04-Oct-20 07:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Their King is a descendent of their God, the White Snake, God of Lamia. [04-Oct-20 07:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They prefer ambushes and sneaking around to fighting head on. They don't travel much, at least pre-konvergence. Only certain Government officials, the King's retinue, the Merchant families, and workmen who do such technical labor that Lamia estates can't perform the duties themselves. [04-Oct-20 07:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They have a lot of arranged or semi-arranged marriages, organized either by direct parents or by elected Patriarchs or Matriarchs of their respective Estates, or Families. [04-Oct-20 07:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Estates are huge swaths of land, normally suitable for farming or at least making money in some capacity, that individual families of Lamia live on. Sometimes very small groups, sometimes very large groups, sometimes small groups in huge areas, and sometimes large groups in very small areas, like those in the rare Lamia cities. [04-Oct-20 07:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Most Estates have many tens of Lamia on them in one family unit thought. 50 - 100 let's say. [04-Oct-20 08:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They require a huge amount of food for sapient creatures, and spend a lot of their working time getting it. Farming, hunting, trading, etc. That, combined with the fact that housing so many Lamia can be expensive regardless of how busy everyone is, as well as their natural inclination for confined secure places, means it's quite common for most members of a Lamia estate to live underground in tunnels dug into the dense clay earth in their property. Normally all of this housing is built in the center of their property, as far away as possible from potential outside threats. [04-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 God even the summed up version of this is long [04-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This compendium entry is going to be like a Wikipedia article [04-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fucking jice [04-Oct-20 08:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I am proud [04-Oct-20 08:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I-I'm pretty sure there's more I could cover from here, but all I've eaten since morning is a few doritos so I'm startin' to flag a lil' here. [04-Oct-20 08:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Get some food in you man [04-Oct-20 08:05 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I am going to go back through everything we discussed and add the bits of it into the document [04-Oct-20 08:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 For instance, not htat we've covered this but, Fashion was basically mimicking the Royalty, which is normal of course. So the Nobles who serve the Royalty started making their scales artificially and temporarily look like the Royals'. The rich peasants like the Merchants and certain especially skilled well-paid families and what not copied the Nobles, and then the middle class peasants started copying them. Sure, makes sense and all that. [04-Oct-20 08:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Cool, distant people who have a lot of wealth and power and who you only see once or twice every handful of years. More appealing to emulate them than the Lamia across the street who dress the same as any other peasant you've ever met. [04-Oct-20 08:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, this partly implies that fashion trends are incredibly slow in Vietlamia, except in times of great upheaval like war or mass retreat. [04-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Their good clothes are... copies of the rich niggas. Their makeup iss...... Copies of the rich niggas. Great grand father dresses this way, Grandfather, Father, Son, Grandson, Great grand son. [04-Oct-20 08:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 There are regional styles but, ultimately, pre-konvergence, you'd see a huge similarity between all of it, a rather static similarity at that. [04-Oct-20 08:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, as a result every region has silk clothes makers, the kinda shit you'd wear and buy color variants of, etc, for special events and festivals, religious deals like going to the snake temple, wearing at weddings and special types that you'd wear at funerals. [04-Oct-20 08:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe it's common for Lamia widows to both dress in blacks and whites, but also apply makeup that makes them look dead as well, including on their scales. Something that does the opposite of usual - Removes luster. The idea being that when her husband dies, part of her is dead as well, in her grief. [04-Oct-20 09:48 PM] Coastie#3790 Idea for the temples, since they are made of stone they could also double as a retreat point in case of invasion or attack. Since they prefer stealth and subterfuge they'd be inclined to use bows, slings, possibly crossbows and poisoned arrows. Maybe poisoned blowdarts for the closer quarters fighting. [04-Oct-20 09:49 PM] Coastie#3790 Due to how muscular they are I can see them using staff type weapons pre-konvergence [04-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like the idea for the styles [04-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And fashion [04-Oct-20 09:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also the temple idea [04-Oct-20 10:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Retreat point Maybe, though Lamia are very protective of their own familial holdings, in the form of their Estates. The tunnels in the estates work as a really great defensive point, all in all. [04-Oct-20 10:01 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In most cases I would see Lamia families either defending hteir home successfully, or all dying down there. [04-Oct-20 10:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I've eaten burger and have since forgot what my ideas even were. [04-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Them using staff weapons pre-konvergence Definitely. Probably a lot of spears and the like, and especially so where it applies to their tunnel defense. [04-Oct-20 10:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Whatmst a melee nigga gonna do in a tight tunnel with three spears in your face [04-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm not sure they prefer subterfuge as it were, but stealth and ambushes for sure. Bows, spears, poison [04-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 though much of what they fight are either Oni's, or unironic dinosaurs, as per the pre established lore for this area. [04-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In the latter case I imagine spears would be the name of the game there, with swords as emergency backup [04-Oct-20 10:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and poison tipped arrows to make the dinosaurs easier for the snakes to handle [04-Oct-20 10:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael Would most Lamia have that homeschooler vibe? [04-Oct-20 10:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The homeschooler vibe? [04-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe [04-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That general sense of "Oh, this person is kind of socially autistic, but in a weird way that doesn't seem like literal autism at all" [04-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 you get it with home school niggas at times. [04-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah that one [04-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d say in some cases, yeah [04-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Especially younger lamia [04-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 S'just that, if they spend their whole lives knowing their family, and chunks of their lives seeing two or three or four - Hell, let's even call it fuckin' 5 - other families [04-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and like.... 20 merchants in their life, doing the same rounds to their place every week or month.. and like maybe 5 or 10 King servant niggas on official business [04-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The majority of all listed having relatively minor amounts of interaction with these people [04-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 you'd think the niggas would have an odd society. [04-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They all have the tism [04-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d think that once you’d get a lamia comfortable and talking they would talk a lot [04-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Coastie#3790 Online gaming would be a nightmare for them [04-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In a way [04-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or heaven [04-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but it'd also be a great e- yeah [04-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 a great enhancement, really, in a sense. [04-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >can choose who you want to talk to >easily spend hours talking without having anyone spend any time near your property >don’t like someone? Mute or ban them >private groups for family and close friends only [04-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Even if they are really autistically uhm... closed off from most online niggas, they'd still increase their friends-who-I'm-not-related-to numbers by a huge amount. [04-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They would love it [04-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >playing a match with a lamia usually ends with a friend request [04-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They would hate dark souls [04-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >an Invader has showed up *incoherent lamia screaming* [04-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Coastie#3790 The older generation would loath it [04-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe. Or maybe it would give them a dual set of... personality modes, in a sense. [04-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [04-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 H-haha [04-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Very open (for a Lamia) online, but in person mostly similar to normal Lamia. [04-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Coastie#3790 Social self/family self? [04-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah kinda. [04-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It would make sense [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Online persona versus IRL personality [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lamias love streaming [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like, online they wouldn't have much threat from these outsider niggas. It's like removing one major negative-for-them aspect out of the social dynamic. [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine Lamia would be incredibly paranoid about viruses. [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Coastie#3790 And doxing [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Epic games? Isn't that Chinese or something? Nty I'm not downloading it." [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lamia uses Omegle [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >only once [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >never again [04-Oct-20 10:25 PM] Coastie#3790 Facebook? NOPE [04-Oct-20 10:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Discord? Lmao why would I use something that wasn't peer to peer? Come on, let's hop in my teamspeak server" [04-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like, I imagine a Lamia wouldn't really understand their feelings properly about online friends. They know the friends, they vouch for the friends in the proper semi-official-unwritten-rule Lamia way, [04-Oct-20 10:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the parents agree, the friend's on his way there, and suddenly the Lamia realizes that this shit is real [04-Oct-20 10:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anon's gonna be here and not be on the other side of a discord call or computer screen [04-Oct-20 10:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 You know [04-Oct-20 10:28 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 You could work this into the Sheriff lamia story [04-Oct-20 10:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh yeah, the eboy thing. Yeah maybe. [04-Oct-20 10:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I've thought of two different Sheriff Lamia stories [04-Oct-20 10:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 not like, two options [04-Oct-20 10:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :itstime: [04-Oct-20 10:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but like one and then another, which is as meta-wise weird as it sounds [04-Oct-20 10:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But once you read'm you'll understand. [04-Oct-20 10:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like the sound of this [04-Oct-20 10:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said, I also imagined that Lamia outside of Vietlamia definitely have the Lamia autism, but to a more muted extent. [04-Oct-20 10:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Samantha's only half Lamia after all, her dad probably taught her at least a lil' in terms of how to not be autistic. [04-Oct-20 10:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine at their front door, her mom hung some signs you can only see once you're at the door that say trespassers will be shot, etc etc. [04-Oct-20 10:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :happyharpy: [04-Oct-20 10:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I love that idea [04-Oct-20 10:31 PM] Coastie#3790 Floor mat says "go away" [04-Oct-20 10:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Trespassers will be shot >”we don’t dial 911” sign >giant gadsden flag [04-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yes. [04-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia would probably really enjoy Gadsen flags. [04-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Gadsden* [04-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine a Costco card would be absolute necessary for these poor Lamia [04-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 No more hyper-fertile Vietlamian soil [04-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or giant creatures full of delicious rib meat walking around [04-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Costco trip every other day [04-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >bulk everything [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would Samantha be a gear head at all? Or would that be her hot milf mother? [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >chug soda like a religion [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Imagine being the waiter for a table of lamias [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Into cars and stuff? [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Oh honey, I saw your oil was leaking in your truck so I replaced your shocks and installed a new oil filter for you while I was in there fixing it" [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 HAH [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Imagine being a waiter for a table of Lamias It would be like being a fucking porter on the Titanic nigga [04-Oct-20 10:34 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So uhh [04-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Her parents are alive [04-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Niggas would get off their shift and literally die with Violin music in the background nigga [04-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Are they still in the town? [04-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or [04-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Where are they? [04-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinking so. Speaking of which, logically, what happens to the town now? [04-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I mean [04-Oct-20 10:35 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 At least 2/3rds of the town was leveled by explosives and the rest is on fire [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 You know, speaking of which, just how strong are the human parts of Lamia? [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I mean, for example, 10 times stronger int heir arms is too much, right? [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeh that’s a little much [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So that's a good starting reference point [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe twice as strong? [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Which doesn’t sound like a lot [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It is [04-Oct-20 10:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Question is, do we want them to bea ble to hang from trees by their arms with their snake parts fully dangling? [04-Oct-20 10:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I would like a wife that I could put in a terrarium and casually observe from across the room in a lounge chair while sipping vodka. [04-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Apparently the world record deadlift is uhhh [04-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 1,100-ish pounds. [04-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sooo [04-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I guess if you consider snakes are 30 percent larger than humans, that number should start as 30 percent higher too, right? [04-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So an extra 330 pounds ontop of that for somewhere under 1,500 [04-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Under a lamias body weight.... [04-Oct-20 10:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And then double that, 3,000 for a record holder Lamia [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 reduce it by, ehh.... 300 - 400 pounds [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Which is a lot [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Still over a ton [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and a strong Lamia, not a world record holder but a strong Lamia, could prolly lift 2,600ish. [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeah [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A farmer could easily lift that probably [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That's deadlift of course. Benching and squats and shit would be lower [04-Oct-20 10:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and uh... I guess... Lamia squats would be sort of tricky to imagine [04-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But yeah, Lamia's in America. Trucks with super reinforced suspensions. [04-Oct-20 10:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Extra large cab with the back seats to coil their tails into [04-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and uhh, I suppose they either put their tail tip to use the gas pedals, or get it converted for hand controls. [04-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Samantha's mom probably likes manual transmission trucks, too, so her hands would be extra busy and would be better off using her tail tip to work the pedals. [04-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like the idea of lamias driving trucks [04-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The ultimate Americans [04-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 No step incarnate [04-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That, [04-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’m looking forward to reading this story [04-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and "What in the fuck is big enough and can haul enough and can be modified to stay running when we drive them" [04-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But yeah, really souped up large trucks. Mama Snake probably did mechanic shit in between getting her snussy filled with eggs {Reactions} happyharpy (2) [04-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Speaking of, didn't we talk about Samantha being an only child? [04-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not much in the way of snussy-delving for dear ol' da' then, eh? Wonder why they didn't have more kids. [04-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 She was an only child [04-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [04-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Good question [04-Oct-20 10:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Looking up cheapest food in America, basically [04-Oct-20 10:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 looks like lard's fuckin' up there [04-Oct-20 10:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 35 cents per 2,000 calories [04-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fats of all types have extremely high calories [04-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Rice, 41 cents per 2,000 calories. [04-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So... $3.48 per day, if she only ate rice. [04-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s not bad.... [04-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But still [04-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Need more than rice [04-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lard fried rice [04-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. I could see Rice being a staple for them though. Prolly in a positive way, for Snussy Prime (Samantha is Snussy Omega) [04-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Pancake mix, going by this website at least, is $1.06 per 2,000 calories [04-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Chimbo#3420 the fuck do we call male lamia snusser? [04-Oct-20 10:52 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 or... 9.01 dollars a day. [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm. I would call them ||fren|| [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Chimbo#3420 Sneener? [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Chimbo#3420 Sneed? [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Chimbo#3420 Snick? [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Y'think Lamia in America would stick to the whole eating one giant meal thing? [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snicks [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Is that more Natural, or more Cultural? Or both? [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snicks and Snussy [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ehhh [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Cultural thing probably [04-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Who knows? [04-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Chimbo#3420 eat a lot then spend a whole lot of time digesting [04-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe some lamia are too busy for that one big meal and nap and find it better to eat multiple smaller meals [04-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm gonna say it's a mix of culture and nature, but that it's no huge problem for them to change that. [04-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Chimbo#3420 similar to how snakes can eat pretty large prey [04-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Chimbo#3420 then digest for a while [04-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That was sort of the idea with the after-meal naps thing. [04-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 For lamias, restaurant supply centers would be a god send [04-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 This website says peanut butter is 1.25 per 2k calories [04-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 goddamn [04-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That doesn't even feel real. Surely they're talking about the absolute cheapest possible shit you can find [04-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >whole milk is also very cheap I'm sure the snakes would rejoice. [04-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Gallon of milk per snek per day [04-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Unironically easily [04-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Chocolate milk is a much loved staple in many households [04-Oct-20 10:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Flour's also fairly cheap. I could see a Lamia loading bags of flour into her truck bed two or four at a time. [04-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A single gallon of whole milk had 2,300 calories [04-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I've never lived in a small city or remote area before, really [04-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Chocolate milk has 3,300 calories a gallon [04-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If you don't have shit like costco or walmart, how hard is it to find cheap food still [04-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [04-Oct-20 11:00 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Pretty damn hard sometimes [04-Oct-20 11:01 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Delivery would be necessary [04-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Wonder if they'd have to set up a whole truck to make it cost effective [04-Oct-20 11:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or maybe just make one very long journey once every week or two or three [04-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine that would be one big reason for Lamia to continue the intense farming and living-off-the-land traditions and practices they had in Vietlamia [04-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They could have their own Semitruck [04-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Whomst is better fed than a farmer? [04-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Make their own shipments [04-Oct-20 11:03 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >mfw the Lamia family shows up at the Costco again {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762555657055371274/image0.jpg [04-Oct-20 11:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine when Samantha got old enough to push a cart she'd have one, along with her mom and dad. [04-Oct-20 11:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mom would be pushing the really heavy stuff, dad the moderately heavy stuff, and her only the kinda-heavy stuff. [04-Oct-20 11:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Some small silver lining is gasoline costs wouldn't be *that* much worse than normal [04-Oct-20 11:06 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or, shit, on a big truck with a lot of towing capacity I should hope it doesn't cost much more, anyway. {Reactions} itstime [04-Oct-20 11:07 PM] Chimbo#3420 What advantages do their tails give exactly? [04-Oct-20 11:08 PM] Chimbo#3420 I know they can slap shit really hard [04-Oct-20 11:08 PM] Chimbo#3420 But what kinds of work do their massive fucking tails help with [04-Oct-20 11:08 PM] Chimbo#3420 Gotta pay those food bills somehow [04-Oct-20 11:08 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, hauling, partially. Separate from merely being strong-for-a-human, they've got really immense hauling capability for a sentient and sapient race. [04-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 More than orcs, I should imagine.. *maybe* the same as Giants, depending on how Giants are written in the future [04-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They move absolutely silently, if they want to, without difficulty in that at all. [04-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Chimbo#3420 So they're rendered obsolete by pickup trucks then? [04-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Chimbo#3420 Idk [04-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They're able to climb up surfaces that are very intensely sloped, ones that a human would find quite difficult [04-Oct-20 11:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >rendered obsolete by pickups I mean, can a pickup haul my bed down the staircase? [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Chimbo#3420 How long is the tail [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael Remind me how long hte tail is. I always forget the numbers. [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Chimbo#3420 I hope you have a pretty spacious living space for that to be comfortable [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Full lamia is 15-20 [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 11-16 [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Chimbo#3420 feet? [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 11 - 16 feet of tail. [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *FEET* [04-Oct-20 11:10 PM] Chimbo#3420 Could be worse [04-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So... 5.2 meters..? something like that? [04-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm bad at remembering the conversions [04-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Chimbo#3420 But yeah I'd imagine that tail gives them a good amount of agility [04-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Chimbo#3420 could be used as a kind of counterweight [04-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Chimbo#3420 and it has a bunch of muscle [04-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It does. They have a faster ground move speed than humans by a little, enough to be noticeable and maybe be a problem for human enemies in some situations, [04-Oct-20 11:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but their swimming speed is very very high. They can swim faster than they can sprint, easily. [04-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Probably allows them to climb better than humans can on certain things. Trees, maybe concrete pillars [04-Oct-20 11:13 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 while also being able to shoot at the same time with both hands free. [04-Oct-20 11:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Is Snussy Prime from Vietlamia originally, @Battlebrothermichael [04-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Chimbo#3420 Do they have vietnamese accents [04-Oct-20 11:18 PM] Chimbo#3420 "love you long time" [04-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That's a good question. Their native language certainly sounds vietnamese-y, so, the ones who don't speak English that well probably do. [04-Oct-20 11:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I think it would be funny. But that also leaves the question of where did the rattler genes come from [04-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also come to think of it, HarpyAnon takes place like 30 years after Konvergence, right? Samantha the Sheriff Lamia is like what, 20 - 28 years old, give or take? So her mother couldn't possibly have been from America, or grown up with English [04-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So it would probably be easier if she was just a Rattler [04-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, her mother could be a Rattler. [04-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Harpy takes place about 30 years after [04-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Didn't we talk about Vietlamia having some Rattlers as well? [04-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yeee [04-Oct-20 11:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 In the desert areas [04-Oct-20 11:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The mother probably was a teen when SHTF [04-Oct-20 11:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 uhhh [04-Oct-20 11:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe found her way to the Mojave somehow [04-Oct-20 11:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Wonder how that would've gone, Lamia being so insular and all. [04-Oct-20 11:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ANd if the mother's really big into cars, and has been a mechanic for a long while, we can assume either she left home specifically because of the draw of vehicle mechanics, or.... some other reason. [04-Oct-20 11:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmmm [04-Oct-20 11:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But, that does open a few doors, decision-wise. [04-Oct-20 11:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe her family estate ended up in the Mojave? [04-Oct-20 11:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Only survivor? [04-Oct-20 11:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Nothing to do but wander? [04-Oct-20 11:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But that’s a little sad [04-Oct-20 11:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oof. Hm, maybe. Maybe she's incredibly free-spirited as far as Vietlamia natives go, and she had the opportunity to go, and chose to. Or... maybe Papa Ekans needed her services for something, in some way. [04-Oct-20 11:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Being Rattlers, implies she's from the deserty areas... being from the deserty areas implies that they make their living in some way beyond just farming. So either very intensive hunting, or merchant work, orrrr combat work mostly for the King, ooorrrrrrr they were craftsmen [04-Oct-20 11:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and floated entirely on trade with distant neighbors directly, and trade with merchants buying their shit wholesale... [04-Oct-20 11:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [04-Oct-20 11:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Annnnddd maybe some Nobles - hell, maybe even royalty - buying their shit direct on occasion. [04-Oct-20 11:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe her dad (sams granddad) was the town sheriff for these lamia? [04-Oct-20 11:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hence the whole sheriff thing being in the genes [04-Oct-20 11:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Since the girl ends up a mechanic, we can assume that her trade, and perhaps her family's trade, was something related to metal work or machines. [04-Oct-20 11:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or something of that nature [04-Oct-20 11:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Since Lamias don't have machines... metal work. [04-Oct-20 11:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Now we have to wonder, what kind of low-tech metal work type bullshit is there, that somebody would view as useful for modern IRL machines. [04-Oct-20 11:26 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe she became obsessed with machines because she had never seen them? [04-Oct-20 11:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The answers that come to my mind are a specialization in small parts metal work, [04-Oct-20 11:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and from there, the rationale for that in Vietlamia is... [04-Oct-20 11:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Complicated puzzles and trinkets manufacture. The classic IRL European word for such a career was "toy maker". Toy meaning, basically, complex small thing, in it's OG context. [04-Oct-20 11:27 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Assuming I go with the idea of Mom has useful skill > Mr.Ekans pays for her services long term > She decides to marry him along the way > Lamia family agrees to allow her to depart from them [04-Oct-20 11:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Similar to how the US did it's whole uhhh, all the states may leave if they want to thing, [04-Oct-20 11:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 until that fucking Nigger lincoln fucked it all up [04-Oct-20 11:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia can leave as they please, even cut family ties as they please, and expect all their own personal shit to go along with them without being forcefully stopped. [04-Oct-20 11:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But, additionally, when an Estate grows to full, a Lamia family too big, a really big an special and rare event happens where some chunk of the family splits off and leaves, making a new Estate elsewhere. Traditionally, very far elsewhere. [04-Oct-20 11:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's their equivalent of 1910's niggas "going to the new world" [04-Oct-20 11:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Despite not being *that* impractical to see eachother again, it mostly wasn't expected. [04-Oct-20 11:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Because >insular af [04-Oct-20 11:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s possible that her family saw this as a great way to expand the estate [04-Oct-20 11:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Have her go out [04-Oct-20 11:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Find a hubby [04-Oct-20 11:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Explore the new world [04-Oct-20 11:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Town Sheriff for these Lamia Interesting idea, though a Sheriff in Vietlamia and a Sheriff in, what, the Mojave, are two very different things. That being said... Maybe her brother or some direct relation of hers - The mother, that is - was the Sheriff of the area. Sam got told that when she was a little girl and thought it was super duper radical and wow I love cowboys can we go to Vietlamia dad, huh? Can we? And then when they finally did a year or two later she's.. Happy. But a little disappointed to find out that Vietlamia Sheriffs mostly act as Judges + Do lots of snake paperwork + settle lots of land or property disputes [04-Oct-20 11:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So all the times she went with him, he didn't even carry a gun, or even a sword, just a short spear slung across his back, and a rice hat. [04-Oct-20 11:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Snaperwork [04-Oct-20 11:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And it involved a lot of walking through muddy fields finding and counting 300 year old property boundry stones [04-Oct-20 11:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But it was wholesome all the same [04-Oct-20 11:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine uncle Sheriff being fat for a snake [04-Oct-20 11:33 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >takes brother (uncle?) back to the Mojave >shows how sheriff work goes there >Brother has an anxiety fueled breakdown [04-Oct-20 11:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A flat-brim rice hat instead of the angular pointy-top ones... and a leather coat of office {Reactions} happyharpy [04-Oct-20 11:34 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Takes brother back to the Mojave >shows her sheriff work goes down there >you see, it's actually really dangerous and actions pac- >HOLY SHIT HOW ARE THERE THIS MANY PEOPLE OH GOD OH FUCK SAMANTHA WHICH OF THESE PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW? HOLY SHIT WHERE'S YOUR TUNNEL SAMANTHA WE HAVE TO GET TO YOUR TUNNEL {Reactions} intenseblush (2) [04-Oct-20 11:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was in a Golden Corral buffet, packed, PACKED, with niggers. The only times I'd seen that many niggers in one place was unironically the welfare line. Fuckin' packed. One of the niggas I was with had a panic attack because there were so many people so packed together. [04-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine it'd be like that, and he'd go outside - Or, well... Find somewhere he felt comfortable to go, and smoke a lot of pipe tobacco [04-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine the Vietlamia people had cigarettes, but they were noble-shit, and the common man smoked it out of a pipe. [04-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Pack a huge pipe [04-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lots of tobacco [04-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not like, an English pipe or nothin' either. A proper backwoods corncob-but-it's-not-actually-corn pipe [04-Oct-20 11:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >famiyl saw it as a great way to expand the estate Yeah, maybe.. Mabye also a good way to get some income while also putting the duty of feeding a budding young Lamia girl on some other schmuck for a few months. [04-Oct-20 11:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a bamboo pipe? [04-Oct-20 11:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Almost like a hookah or mini-bong? [04-Oct-20 11:38 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And then, whoops, "Hey Dad, uhhhh, how about you get mom and a couple comfortable mats, and coil up to talk to me about something. See... you know how I uhm, went with that guy out to do adventure stuff..?" [04-Oct-20 11:39 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >hooka >mini bong Na, if anything it'd be especially light, made to be able to stay in one's mouth while working. [04-Oct-20 11:39 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “I would just like to say... happy grandparents day?” [04-Oct-20 11:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Will [04-Oct-20 11:41 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More design like [04-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not size [04-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A pipe like this basically. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762565257431744522/ss_7d88dabcb742f881fc3c095490dc99bf11e86320.png [04-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 RS2 is such a based game. [04-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhhh [04-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I see [04-Oct-20 11:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but uhhhh, yeah. Mama Snake turns into a mechanic. Makes sense that she'd have some mechanical talent or knowledge beforehand, and it would also make sense why she specifically was taken along with Papa Ekans, and the rest of her family wasn't, or any other snake wasn't. [04-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "Shit, XYZ small part keeps breaking, and the guy who knew machines is fuckin' dead. These are apparently the place's best metal smiths, let's talk to them." >the best snake for the job when it comes to complicated things is Sam's mom >They offer her family a lot of XYZ for her services for a set amonut of time while they're in this general area >They agree because maybe they're also in a huge bind and in need of whatever it is that the humans are offering >Maybe they're in the country in general on royal decree, which I imagine would also open a lot of doors if they were able to prove it [04-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like this idea [04-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [04-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, that reminds me, there'd probably be official government niggas, functionaries basically, that go around and literally meet every Lamia sheriff in the country, as well as many of the Patriarchs, and the same for all the military commanders, w/e, since they mostly-only trust individuals that they have met, or that have been vouched for [04-Oct-20 11:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So maybe they've got a functionary snake with them vouching that these niggas ain't lyin'. [04-Oct-20 11:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Very very autistic and inefficient system but it's the best they've got that can reliably work in their system {Reactions} Jerry [04-Oct-20 11:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 in their society, I mean. [04-Oct-20 11:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, she was the closest thing to a mechanic in this fucking continent, unironically. [04-Oct-20 11:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So she goes with them, at some point her and Ekans-kun agree to start storing his surplus cum inside of her snussy [04-Oct-20 11:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the adventure in that land ends, she's pregnant, they have a big ol' Lamia wedding which is a huge fucking deal, [04-Oct-20 11:52 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What is a lamia wedding like? [04-Oct-20 11:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 She gets her scales shined, lacquered, waxed, and they're beautiful, and she puts on her colored silks and this weird wedding hat that women wear in Vietnamese culture during weddings, [04-Oct-20 11:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ekans doesn't have any scales to shine or lacquer, and he's certainly not going to get his asshole waxed, [04-Oct-20 11:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 so he gets his mom to send his father's old wedding outfit from the late 70's, and it barely arrives in time for the wedding {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762568753783111690/Rainbow-Plaid-Sequin-Suits-Men-Dancer-Stage-Performance-Blazer-With-Pants-Disco-Festival-Party-Weddi.png [04-Oct-20 11:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Goes over quite well with the Lamia [05-Oct-20 12:00 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/762569991592738816/image0.jpg [05-Oct-20 12:00 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I really like that a lot [05-Oct-20 12:01 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway Lamia weddings.. I imagine the bride and groom would normally have their scales waxed in the traditional way. They'd have very elaborate silk clothing, the finer and shinier the better. There would be a dowry that goes both ways. There would be a lot of vetting ahead of time, as well as buttering up all parties. There would probably be traditions since the very early days of their existence as a species stemming from their deep suspicion of outsiders. In the early days a lot of the guests wouldn't even be guests, they would be armed guards, in case the other party was going to attack, or if this was some sort of elaborate trick. This was during the days when the individual Lamia estates might not have known their neighbors much at all... but the siren's song of snussy calls all the same. [05-Oct-20 12:02 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That probably eventually turned into a sort of honor guard thing, and then later in some regional areas was spun as "Ah, these 4 most-trusted warriors(and later, when they became much more hunters than they were warriors, maybe just... Trusted village men of standing. Sort of like a Best Man in a way.) are here from both sides to make sure nothing goes wrong on your most important day" [05-Oct-20 12:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which, in some regions, and for the Lamia families that are specialized in war and combat especially, it's a good time for a show of skill, and games. Wrestling, sword-chopping-competitions, archery, etc. [05-Oct-20 12:04 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhhh [05-Oct-20 12:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The trader niggas wouldn't really do that much, the farmer niggas in the heartland with few threats wouldn't do that much, but the niggas in the deserts probably would, since hunting and even defense was a much bigger deal [05-Oct-20 12:04 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Almost make it a festival in itself [05-Oct-20 12:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmhmm, in a way. [05-Oct-20 12:05 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Almost like... the Nervous guards staring eachother down like a meeting between leaders of two warring nations, turned into a slightly more up beat honor guard, weapons and armor and etc, [05-Oct-20 12:05 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 then to a sort of half assed honor guard. "Oh, yeah, my cousin's getting married next week. Can you shine up this dagger to make it extra sparkly for me?" [05-Oct-20 12:06 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Another ornament on the belt. [05-Oct-20 12:06 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Kek [05-Oct-20 12:06 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, where was I, uh.. Silks, shined scales, painted up pretty. Flashy clothes displaying wealth. [05-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I had a few ideas for Dwarven weddings that I need to make sure I don't accidentally apply to Lamia also [05-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I feel like they'd have quirky ways of calling some of the meta stuff, too [05-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 like, [05-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A marriage where the woman is already pregnant is a "farmer's marriage" [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 a marriage where the woman isn't pregnant is a "scholar's marriage" [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 isn't already pregnant* [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 H-hahaha [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uh [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Would Farmers marriages be more common? [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “Well... I think they are in love and we should plan a wedding” [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *how do you know?* [05-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “Well, this *is* their third child already.” [05-Oct-20 12:09 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm... Not necessarily. Lamia are somewhat autistic, after all. Many of these marriages are agreed upon by both parties, but are ultimately arranged, and may proceed fairly slowly. *Especially* if they're both part of very populated Estates. [05-Oct-20 12:09 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Imagine fucking your gf in your house when your mom's home. [05-Oct-20 12:09 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Now imagine fucking your GF in your house while 30 people are home. [05-Oct-20 12:09 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Ekans has no such reservations [05-Oct-20 12:09 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Those numbers aren't representative of true Lamia numbers of course, but [05-Oct-20 12:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >*let them listen* [05-Oct-20 12:10 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 More like >Ekans has the empty back section of a humvee and like 4 hours to kill while they wait for their compatriots to come back with the jewels they were promised [05-Oct-20 12:11 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [05-Oct-20 12:11 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “Hey, why did the suspension suddenly get bad?” [05-Oct-20 12:11 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *beats me.* [05-Oct-20 12:11 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe they had her install a spare part they had, that required a lot of very fine fitting work- idunno cars idunno how that'd work but w/e - and her vast experience with polishing metal and making puzzles for nobles came in handy in a huge way, so they hired her on as the closest thing to a mechanic they had in the region. [05-Oct-20 12:12 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @TruFear what would a part like that be? [05-Oct-20 12:12 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, Mama Snake took Ekans' last name, not the other way around, so they are in no way a continuation of the Clan/Estate that mama snake came from, under snake law. [05-Oct-20 12:12 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah [05-Oct-20 12:12 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A brand new offshoot [05-Oct-20 12:13 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ehhh..... Technically, under snake law, a continuation of another clan. The Ekans clan... Although, that is literally a last name Ekans-kun made up [05-Oct-20 12:13 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 so [05-Oct-20 12:13 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Just be happy Vietlamia doesn't have Jews to muddy these waters further. [05-Oct-20 12:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I imagine it is going to be a little awkward for Sam and Anon to show up at Mom and Ekans home [05-Oct-20 12:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Especially after all that [05-Oct-20 12:13 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh? How'ya figure? [05-Oct-20 12:14 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Well [05-Oct-20 12:14 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The town she worked as sheriff for blew up [05-Oct-20 12:14 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 After letting in outsiders [05-Oct-20 12:14 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Which is a huge fucky uppy for a Lamia [05-Oct-20 12:15 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh. Mom's had society beat out a lot of her Vietlamia autism by this point. 30 years in the US ought'a do that to a gal. She probably realizes the town blowing up wasn't *just* because outsiders existed [05-Oct-20 12:15 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And her father understands properly that this Anon had *nothing* to do with that *other* Anon [05-Oct-20 12:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Mom would probably be confused by the anon names [05-Oct-20 12:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 While dad [05-Oct-20 12:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Dad would understand [05-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Kachel#6608 In what year did the /k/onvergence take place? [05-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “You see, it all started with a guy named anon showing up and-“ *ah, I see. Nevermind then. I understand.* [05-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Kachel it’s left undetermined for reasons [05-Oct-20 12:17 AM] Kachel#6608 Aight, I'll figure something out. [05-Oct-20 12:17 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 2015 - 2020 - 2025 is my feelings on the matter but it's mostly w/e [05-Oct-20 12:17 AM] Kachel#6608 I'll just use 20XX [05-Oct-20 12:17 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, Lamia weddings- Na, using >20XX< is kinda gay and over done by cringe. Just pick a year. [05-Oct-20 12:17 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or do "XYZ time after /k/onvergence" [05-Oct-20 12:17 AM] Kachel#6608 No {Reactions} [05-Oct-20 12:18 AM] Kachel#6608 It won't fit. {Reactions} (2) [05-Oct-20 12:18 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, Lamia weddings. I guess that would call for a Feast, like many things in Vietlamia.... Hmm... You have any ideas on that, @Battlebrothermichael ? [05-Oct-20 12:19 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Massive feast [05-Oct-20 12:19 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [05-Oct-20 12:19 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Even more than usual [05-Oct-20 12:19 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [05-Oct-20 12:19 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The ceremony could involve something like a candle burning? [05-Oct-20 12:20 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe. They do have Wax and probably employ candles a fair bit. [05-Oct-20 12:20 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, something I hadn't thought about until now, I wonder if they're good at grinding glass. [05-Oct-20 12:20 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Polishing feels like it'd be similar to grinding glass, right? [05-Oct-20 12:20 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I imagine they could exchange candles of some sort, maybe a shared candle is at the altar and then they both light their own candles with it? [05-Oct-20 12:21 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 'Couple things at any rate, do they invoke God during this ceremony? Do they try to have like, themes of self determination and freedoms and all that? [05-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmm [05-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe invoke god in a mystical sense [05-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Binding them [05-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Combining their freedoms? [05-Oct-20 12:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, maybe. For Harpies, this is a permanent thing, for Dwarves, they're probably very heavily bound by like, the autistic grinding-two-rocks-together-forever metaphor for Dwarven society [05-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Combining their freedoms feels a bit odd for the Lamia though. [05-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 There's probably a big component where both parties have to state publicly and fully that they're doing this marriage of their own free will. [05-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The "I Do" 's, except very much more serious. [05-Oct-20 12:34 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm wondering if this takes place on their land, or if it takes place at hte local snake church [05-Oct-20 12:37 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Attmouse You got any ideas Attmouse-kun? [05-Oct-20 12:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I would think it would take place on their own land [05-Oct-20 12:38 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Where there’s that trust aspect [05-Oct-20 12:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe, but if the ceremony originated during a time of great distrust, you'd think they'd want to have it somewhere neutral. [05-Oct-20 12:40 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If they're concerned enough to have armed fully-geared warriors on hand, you'd think they are concerned. If they're concerned, would they really allow this to happen on the enemy's territory? [05-Oct-20 12:40 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That being said, maybe that was back then. Maybe most snake marriages now (or, y'know, right before Konvergence) happen at one of the two Estates. [05-Oct-20 12:44 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine most of the invoking the White Snake thing would have a lot of snake-centric language. [05-Oct-20 12:44 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A lot of use of the words Lamia to refer to the two being married, rather than the more general 'people'. [05-Oct-20 12:44 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Might make Ekans' marriage somewhat of a funny clunky thing. [05-Oct-20 12:50 AM] Attmouse#2447 > Dragons like to kidnap maidens. > Have we determined that dragons can shapeshift? @Coastie Only when that pesky knight is away. ||5 Chimbo Rant Coins to whom recognizes the reference.|| [05-Oct-20 12:59 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit what if the lamias bring a jar of dirt from their own land as a wedding gift to the neutral land? A sort of symbolic “handing over their land”. [05-Oct-20 01:00 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Could be also where they dump the jar of dirt out and mix the dirts together [05-Oct-20 01:00 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A sort of symbolic union [05-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmmm.... Maybe the jar of dirt is a wedding present to the individual going to the new family [05-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [05-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 OR [05-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe a brick [05-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And its not kept persay, but, [05-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A highly polished brick of clay [05-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Used in their farm plot [05-Oct-20 01:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So in a sense their land is still with them and providing for them [05-Oct-20 01:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not so much a goft from one family to another, one estate to another, but instead a gift from wifes old estate to the wife. [05-Oct-20 01:05 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or husband, if applicable [05-Oct-20 01:09 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Would Lamia need 8.5 times more liquids as well as food [05-Oct-20 01:12 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >So in a sense their land is still with them and providing for them @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit yes, that is a good idea. It’s both a literal and figurative thing. [05-Oct-20 01:14 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also yes they would need lots of liquids XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [05-Oct-20 04:17 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 guys why don't we use pastebin to make the primer for lamias but we separate F-Asian lamias from F-North American Lamias put em in different categories [05-Oct-20 04:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think that’s a good idea [05-Oct-20 04:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Traditional lamias and Rattler lamia [05-Oct-20 04:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. Though, I would think that Lamia in the Americas wouldn't necessarily just be Rattlers. [05-Oct-20 04:20 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 also, Attmouse is getting a bit overboard the Vietlamias are just a combo of trad Vietnam and libertarian USA basically, what South Vietnam should have been [05-Oct-20 04:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 You'd get some that live similarly, in certain parts of South America, to the Vietlamia niggas, and of course Rattlers and maybe one or two other sub races would be much better suited to North America than most Vietlamian niggas [05-Oct-20 04:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but I imagine you'd still get similar types on occasion. [05-Oct-20 04:21 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 true in the equivalent to South America, you'll find the GigaNigga 9000 boa and anaconda lamias {Reactions} Jerry (2) [05-Oct-20 04:22 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Drawing inspiration from other cutlures around the world from the past and present is something we've always done to try and create a unique and original race. [05-Oct-20 04:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine a lot of the Lamia who get over to our world would mostly wanna hang around the US. Really really cheap food + at least the often-broken *promise* of freedom and self determination + lots of unsettled land without much bullshit to contend with. [05-Oct-20 04:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Please [05-Oct-20 04:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Don’t go on about the “broken promise” of the American dream [05-Oct-20 04:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’ve read too much Asian American literature [05-Oct-20 04:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s all just whining [05-Oct-20 04:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >Asian American literature Why is it all cringe [05-Oct-20 04:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, Asians are usually rolling in dough, comparatively [05-Oct-20 04:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Asian American literature (at least the semi-fictional writings of authors like Amy Tan and Maxine H. Kingston) can often be boiled down to “school bad, mom bad, America sucks.” [05-Oct-20 04:25 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 “American dream bad, return to China. China good.” [05-Oct-20 04:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Cringe. [05-Oct-20 04:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "I sure wish my mom fed me baby food containing poisons when I was a child, I sure missed out by being in Amerikkka" [05-Oct-20 04:26 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 then go back if you hate it so much fucking faggots [05-Oct-20 04:27 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 probably came, expecting the '50s white howdy doody suburbia shit only to find niggers, white trash, and the suburbs filled with nosy Karens and shrivel-dick compensating boomers who think they're all Vietcong [05-Oct-20 04:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Most boomers in Cali like them, and really myself too in a way, because they compare way way way favorably to spics and niggers, which is most of what we get here. [05-Oct-20 04:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I don’t mind the Asians [05-Oct-20 04:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 They’re typically very cool [05-Oct-20 04:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s just [05-Oct-20 04:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Asian American poetry, short stories, and writing [05-Oct-20 04:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine that's because any of the reasonable asians are all working or equally hard at work in school. [05-Oct-20 04:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Unlike niggers and spics. [05-Oct-20 05:14 PM] instant ramen#8608 asian people who do that kind of writing are the near worthless people on the other end of the spectrum from the doctor and lawyer asians [05-Oct-20 05:14 PM] instant ramen#8608 u know the kind [05-Oct-20 05:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Talentless *and* unwilling to put in hard work? Cringe. [05-Oct-20 05:16 PM] instant ramen#8608 many of the slants here can make the mistake of staying in their ethnic enclaves [05-Oct-20 05:16 PM] instant ramen#8608 or being grad students who are milked as cheap labor by universities [05-Oct-20 05:17 PM] instant ramen#8608 while being subsidized by american tax dollars as they glide by on special welfare programs [05-Oct-20 05:17 PM] instant ramen#8608 grad students who are still pursuing their degree after their Nth year [05-Oct-20 05:17 PM] instant ramen#8608 or undergrads [05-Oct-20 05:17 PM] instant ramen#8608 some of them dropping babies here before going home for that sweet sweet american citizenship [05-Oct-20 05:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >going home [05-Oct-20 05:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Fucking [05-Oct-20 05:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 immigrants don't count [05-Oct-20 05:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 There's an idea for their God. Maybe dragons, baby dragons especially, being hatched in groups of a thousand or more eggs at once, have a very strong instinct to not smash up eggs. So maybe, Whitesnake-kun being stark white, somehow fooled some baby dragons or dragons generally into thinking he was just a big egg. [05-Oct-20 05:35 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Feels like a backwater East Asian legend, I think, which is my intent. [05-Oct-20 05:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Was talking to 8-Track about the Lamias elsewhere and we got to talking about the occasional dragon incursions that still take place from time to time. It's a goal of sorts for the Lamia to find where the dragons laid their huge clutches of eggs, but it's normally not really an attainable goal as they're laid very far away in territory that is mostly wild, and filled with tribalistic Oni and such. Maybe Goblins as well, 'think on that in the geographical context of Fankasia Asia later. [05-Oct-20 05:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, he made me realized I never mentioned much about Vietlamia armies. I figure there's a handful of Lamia families and estates, mostly up North near the capital, that specialize in combat and warfare. Most of the time they're used to protect the King and the Royal family, and the Nobles. Then they're used to protect from Oni/other more pedestrian threats. If there's none of those on hand they might also be used to deal with particularly troublesome wild animal infestations somewhere in and around the country. In addition to all this, they're there to deal with dragon incursions. Almost always just one baby dragon wandering into the country, fucking stuff up in it's animalistic way, as per the preestablished lore on Fankasia Asia. [05-Oct-20 05:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, something kind of fun that I thought of was groups of these Military Lamia going out on what amount to LRRP's. They leave the relative peaceful and organized lands of Vietlamia, and head out into the wild territory of the Oni. Most of it really is just recon, looking at the major Oni shitheaps here and there, looking for signs of a Dragon being drawn there by the activity and the noise and the smoke that accompanies sapient life. Hoping to spot Dragons long before they make it into Vietlamia and start fucking shit up. [05-Oct-20 05:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's all very chance-y, though. These individual baby dragons may only show up a single time in 50 years, or a new one might pop in every year for 10 years straight. Some Kings and their administrations take it very seriously, some probably didn't and paid the price. [05-Oct-20 05:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Point is though, that, and dirt roads, are where Lamia taxes go. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [06-Oct-20 11:36 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael the idea with Dwarves is I was thinking some outside nation could have tried getting Vietlamia's one major important resource - Adamantine - and the Vietlamia refused in full. Maybe such deals of extreme significance - the equivalent of handing a few nukes over to a third world shithole for instance - require many decades, maybe the entire reign of a Vietlamia King, which is way way slower than this other party wants. So they stir the other sapients of that continent - Goblins and Oni maybe, flesh that bit out later - into going to war with the Lamia in a bigger way than usual. I didn't want to go with High Elves because I feel it's a lil too expected and some unironic diversity is good, so I figured the next most realistic canidate is the Dwarves. Or *some* Dwarves at the least. [06-Oct-20 11:37 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe niggas who need it so quickly to fulfill some prophecy in their religion, something interesting like that, w/e. [06-Oct-20 11:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [06-Oct-20 11:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 For a story? [06-Oct-20 11:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Could be interesting [06-Oct-20 11:38 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Could straight up be the Oni [06-Oct-20 11:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 For lore tbh, to rationalize the Lamia officially sanctioning and encouraging humans to come over and sell their spooky fire sticks and maybe dk some contract killing of their own [06-Oct-20 11:40 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >straight up be the oni What, and not an outside force?maybe, but it's odd that the oni suddenly step up after hunnids or maybe thousands of years of only being a moderate threat to Vietlamia, [06-Oct-20 11:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Easily explained by certain specific Oni leaders being propped up and supplied by soke external group [06-Oct-20 11:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which overall ties in with the Samantha Ekans story, distantly, in rationalizing her parents meeting. [06-Oct-20 11:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Beyond those reasons, it's also more fun I think. It adds mystery and intrigue, as opposed to the small mystery of "why are the onis so organized lately" [06-Oct-20 11:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmmm [06-Oct-20 11:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sounds interesting [06-Oct-20 11:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Interesting, sure, but suitable to propose as the canon for these groups and that region? [06-Oct-20 11:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s what I’m thinking about [06-Oct-20 11:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Because yes it’s interesting for a story [06-Oct-20 11:59 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But I’m not sure as canon [07-Oct-20 12:00 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which parts are you against? [07-Oct-20 12:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 See [07-Oct-20 12:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’m not sure if it’s in character for the dwarves to do that [07-Oct-20 12:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s what I’m hung up on [07-Oct-20 12:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Dwarves are more autistic and keep to their own mountains [07-Oct-20 12:02 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Rather than actively going out to fuck other races over [07-Oct-20 12:02 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, it could be a sect of Dwarves. Like uhhh, ooollllllddd school republicans and accepting Israel with such open arms specifically because of biblical prophesy, iirc. [07-Oct-20 12:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Could be a some of the decision makers want the green metal for religious reasons, nigger snakes wont give it in 100 years but they need it by a deadline, so fuck'm destabilize the snake shits by supplying money and arms. [07-Oct-20 12:06 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I feel the dwarves would just do a straight up religious war if that was the case [07-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Overland-kun weighed in on the Dwarf actions and could see it happen. [07-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Rather than subterfuge and trickery [07-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More a stand up fight than trying to CIA [07-Oct-20 12:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, it might be the majority of the Dwarves wouldn't want to. Plus, it's cheaper and easier even under ideal circumstances to finance and arm a bunch of gorillas than to send your own people [07-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 S'practical purposes in that [07-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Plus, saving face. [07-Oct-20 12:08 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe Vietlamia has a treaty with XYZ and the Dwarves dont wanna piss off XYZ right now [07-Oct-20 12:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [07-Oct-20 12:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Why would the Oni agree to even do it on the first place though? [07-Oct-20 12:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sure they get paid [07-Oct-20 12:10 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But what do they have to gain? [07-Oct-20 12:11 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The wild unruly bands of Oni have a deep hatred for the Sn*keoids and have had almost continuous conflict in varying intensities for as long as anyone on their end can remember. That, or maybe goblins, those details can be sorted out properly with thought later. [07-Oct-20 12:12 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like convincing the sovs to go to war against nazi germany 2.0. Not that difficult of a speech check 'that. [07-Oct-20 12:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I can see it happening.... [07-Oct-20 12:14 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Still seems a little out of place [07-Oct-20 12:14 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I say write it and see how it goes [07-Oct-20 12:14 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Plus, their lands are tamed, comparatively. Their food is the best, their alcohol is the best, their roads are the best, their houses are the best, and they have a lot of valuables worth stealing. So say, idunno, 5 or 10 different Oni tribes get united under one heavily financed and armed war chief. [07-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, writing it out into a story would be odd. I'd be inclined to write it like a history book tbh. [07-Oct-20 12:16 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not sure if thaf would be autistic on my part though. [07-Oct-20 12:19 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Something somewhat interesting might be that the Oni keep Goblin slaves, which the Lamia think of as cringe [07-Oct-20 12:20 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Something to run in and soak up damage and Lamia arrows, maybe get a few lucky dagger-stabs in while the Oni and their less-unloyal and more skillful Goblin slaves wait to storm the line. [07-Oct-20 12:23 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhh [07-Oct-20 12:23 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A history type thing would be good [07-Oct-20 12:23 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was wondering on the idea that perhaps it was a religious revolution amongst some Ocean going Dwarves on an Island or some coast somewhere who sort of leaped before they looked, and if they dont get the adamantine within a certain time frame, their prophecy falls to pieces. [07-Oct-20 12:23 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Almost like the briefing document Cas has about the high elves [07-Oct-20 12:24 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmhmm, though I don't want to just copy him, so itd be somewhat differently themed. [07-Oct-20 12:25 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hell. [07-Oct-20 12:25 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could even see it as the religious revolution was somewhat bloody, so they don't have a lot of man power no matter what, so another reason to supply the Oni and not attack directly. [07-Oct-20 12:27 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Plus even if they did take over Vietlamia themselves, a very difficult task in an unfamiliar and strange foreign land, with a spear point hidden amongst every jungle bush and at the lip of every tunnel, at the end of the day they may still have to contend with Oni incursion. [07-Oct-20 12:27 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Better to hand the Oni's the only thing they've ever wanted in exchange for some gay green rocks. [07-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >ocean going dwarves [07-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Now [07-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hold on a sec [07-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 How the fuck does that work [07-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I am intrigued [07-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee, [07-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Care to explain? [07-Oct-20 12:28 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Firstly, nothing new under the sun, [07-Oct-20 12:29 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I had the idea when talking to Overland weeks ago, and then saw someine esle talk about his similar idea he had before I did [07-Oct-20 12:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I'm thinking.. Well. Prior to this Lamia factor in my ideas, I had thought perhaps they were the first in Fankasia to discover that ||metal can float || [07-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmmmm [07-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Go on [07-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Piracy dwarves? [07-Oct-20 12:31 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And that perhaps they lived on one or many floating platforms, though now that I think about it, maybe a cooler idea might be.. [07-Oct-20 12:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They had a major cataclysmic event, almost all of their territory sunk beneath the waves following months of massive earth quakes [07-Oct-20 12:33 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And that now they live on their territory still, just, it's a lot more wet and there's a lot more sea monsters. [07-Oct-20 12:33 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Now [07-Oct-20 12:33 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I can definitely *sea* piracy dwarves in boats and shit going around stirring up trouble {Reactions} [07-Oct-20 12:33 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe even work in the religious revolution niggas. Some kinda cult that came from that over the course of maybe half of a dwarfs lifetime. [07-Oct-20 12:36 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, maybe this great calamity had spurred them on to developing great leaps in certain tech. Crude air lines and then crude diving bells and then crude diving suits, air supplied with surface bellows, their goal of incredible practical use. [07-Oct-20 12:36 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Now [07-Oct-20 12:36 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Is this before or after the Konvergance? [07-Oct-20 12:37 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Recover their treasures, their vital tools and equipment, their culture, in addition to trying to find out why this happened, and maybe at times ||just to find shit to sell for food that isnt fish and clothes that aren't wet|| [07-Oct-20 12:38 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Before. The cataclysm maybe... [07-Oct-20 12:38 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Somewhere between 100 and 500ish years prior. This depends on dwarf lore I gotta research later. [07-Oct-20 12:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What do you mean by crude airlines? [07-Oct-20 12:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The religious revolution amongst them? Maybe... Several decadea prior to konvergence [07-Oct-20 12:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I can see crude driving stuff maybe [07-Oct-20 12:39 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But airlines seems a little advanced [07-Oct-20 12:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Literally just a hose in a dorf's mouth, before theyd developrd proper gear. [07-Oct-20 12:39 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Unironically diving tech before, what, 1750 [07-Oct-20 12:40 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oiled sheeps intestines or w/e real niggas used way back when. [07-Oct-20 12:42 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, Dwarves had researched boat shit earlier, since they were coastal, so they had those which kept this particular Dwarf nation alive. They had a small sliver of land left, bordered by really powerful niggas whomst would obliterate them if they tried taking some of their land. [07-Oct-20 12:45 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So they love on their boats, use dwarven autism, fervor, IQ, and hatred of failure to scrape together a life. A bunch of boats anchored together turned into a floating city, turned into a low-end functional nation again, they did diving shit and were eventually able to salvage shit from their now-underwater mountain to build supports into the top of their old mountain, steel beams mostly, and once again they had something akin to land in their old mountainhome. [07-Oct-20 12:46 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Long story short, this was the first step in a spooky cult's prophecies, and it went somewhat downhill from there. [07-Oct-20 12:46 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :excuseme: [07-Oct-20 12:46 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This is cool [07-Oct-20 12:46 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Would they be friends with the Dark elves? [07-Oct-20 12:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Considering dark elves are just chocolate flavored pirate elves [07-Oct-20 12:47 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Next step in the prophecy was fullfilled, the drowned King of the Mountain would taste air again - they recovered his corpse [07-Oct-20 12:47 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Fire would burst from the seas and we will start our great forges once again - a volcano stuxk its dick out of the water, complete with precum lava [07-Oct-20 12:48 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee that might do. I think that the high elves might view this legitimately high tech for fankasia diving shit with major concern. Maybe they gave this cult a few helping hands. [07-Oct-20 12:49 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like maybe that wasnt the king, but a dwarf who looked like him who they drowned, dressed up, and either had some dwarves plant in the mountain to be soon found, or they just bribed or threatened or blackmailed the diving dwarves on shift that day. [07-Oct-20 12:50 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And the lava thing was just luck + vague wording being in their favor [07-Oct-20 12:52 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The end prophecy is their main prophet nigga or w/e has to walk through a river of lava up to his ankles without burning. So they need Adamantine to fashion adamantine high-boots, so the nigga will be able to technically do it on the shallowest flow. [07-Oct-20 12:54 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [07-Oct-20 12:55 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The snake niggers don't do no fuckin' deals with no unknowns though, especially semi-crazy lookin' ones with some kooky religious prophecy shit. The Vietlamia process for this shit takes a lot of time, years and years, *especially* for the scarce, ultra-valuable, ultra useful adamantine. They *need* this shit go fight dragons, and it's very important culturally too. It'd be akin to the Sovs selling off their lewis guns from their revolution that were seen as cultural treasures, besides. [07-Oct-20 12:57 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So evsn tho all the dwarves need is like, two Lamia condom's worth of adamantine, the Lamia will not give in. The trade delegation very quickly - a few days - descends into shouting matches with the King's Merchant even. They're expelled, bringing the count up to 110, and the Dwarves quickly turn their eyes and tightly clutched coin purses toward the Lamia's closest major enemy. [07-Oct-20 01:00 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [07-Oct-20 01:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This sounds like an interesting historical thing [07-Oct-20 01:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I want to see it written out [07-Oct-20 01:01 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 This in the form of lots and lots of high quality dwarven weapons, only slight blood pitting (this is an /msg/ joke), lots of gold and jewels, as well as the best tacticians this particular group of Dwarves has. Maybe even some of their best units, holy warriors crisp and deflowered towards war and violence, and armored as extensively and skillfully as any Lamia. [07-Oct-20 01:01 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Wargunlock what do you think of this? [07-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 This also allows eventual armament from the humans to the Vietlamia, when Konvergence happens. Maybe... A year or two after konvergence, and 3 - 8 years after the start of the Oni's much increased hostilities. [07-Oct-20 01:05 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The King is finally going panic mode with these Oni incursions n shit, and he's willing to both empty his royal coffers *and* expedite the usual slow Vietlamia... Er.... Mercantile Courting period. [07-Oct-20 01:05 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Whiiiiich [07-Oct-20 01:06 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Results in Hueys and M60's and M1 helmets sold to the Lamia and M2 carbines and M2 brownings and M79 grenade launchers and M16's and pineapple grenades and radio operators and M1D snipers and claymores and M14's and BAR's and recoilless rifles and 1911's and garands and Jeeps to make use of the many narrow jungle roads and and and.... Annnnnnnddd...... [07-Oct-20 01:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ||The black sheep of the Lamia Royal family, a 40th-in-line fucking disappointment and testament to the folly of allowing even a drop of peasant blood into their bloodlines|| ||a Garden snake Lamia who flies a Cobra attack chopper|| {Reactions} excuseme (3) [07-Oct-20 01:14 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So this would take place [07-Oct-20 01:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Soon after the /k/onvergance? [07-Oct-20 01:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 During? [07-Oct-20 01:15 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Right after? [07-Oct-20 01:16 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Probably mostly summed up as "and since budgetary concerns were at the forefront of the companies considerations, and the resulting tactical advantage so great regardless, it was decided to arm the Vietlamia people with surplus arms fromcthe Malaysian and Philipine governments, who in wake of their own problems resulting from the Konvergence, were more than happy to accept the companies offer." [07-Oct-20 01:16 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Uh, 2 years or sonafter the Konvergemcr first happens. [07-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Give or take. Maybe 3 or 4. [07-Oct-20 01:17 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 For Human involvement I mean. [07-Oct-20 01:19 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I figure right after Konvergence some niggas unironically on a bus accidentally got isekai'd into Vietlamia, captured, and eventually taught the Vietlamia officials enough English to properly deal with the human adventurers who made their way to the country, who then relayed the need for Military Advisement to interested parties in our worldm [07-Oct-20 01:19 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And/or maybe the language issue was also helped via the Royal family's strong magics. [07-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This is a big hmmmmmmm [07-Oct-20 01:21 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Howssat? [07-Oct-20 01:23 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’m curious as to how this would play out [07-Oct-20 01:23 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And work [07-Oct-20 01:24 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmm. Is there some chronological issue with 2 - 4 years after konvergence? [07-Oct-20 01:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oh nah [07-Oct-20 01:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not much I’d think [07-Oct-20 01:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 After a year maybe some alphabet boys would start looking for things to do in fantasy land [07-Oct-20 01:29 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 In four years definitely would want to get involved [07-Oct-20 01:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I was thinkin' this is a PMC. Maybe one of a few who got lucky enough to make the King or the main Merchant nigga or w/e like him, specifically, more than the other PMC's representatives [07-Oct-20 01:32 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Got some cash in advance, bought the milsurp for fucking pennies basically, and started enjoying beers and steaks grilled on a burn barrel accompanied by some choice snussy in between teaching Lamia how to shoot straight [07-Oct-20 01:34 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 My midnight in-bed calculations tell me each Huey can carry 3 - 4 Lamia plus light gear plus a human pilot. [07-Oct-20 02:23 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also, I talked about fashionable tail-caps being worn by Lamia. Prolly ones to emphasize slender appearance for females, and a wider bulkier appearance for males. [07-Oct-20 10:31 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Wargunlock what do you think of that thing harpy pinged'ya for [07-Oct-20 10:31 AM] Wargunlock#0868 I have not had the chance to look at it, my autism was focused elsewhere. [07-Oct-20 11:00 AM] Wargunlock#0868 This is great but we need to have this contained in a single lore document. [07-Oct-20 11:00 AM] Wargunlock#0868 Ill give it an indepth read once I get off of work. [07-Oct-20 11:18 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit I’m going to try and start writing up the doc soon [07-Oct-20 11:18 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Might be done by the end of the week [07-Oct-20 11:19 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Kachel when would be a good time to VC about the floating island territories? [07-Oct-20 11:20 AM] Kachel#6608 I could maybe do it now, I'll just have to do some stuff. [07-Oct-20 11:20 AM] Kachel#6608 Maybe in 10 min. [07-Oct-20 11:21 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yee. I figure this war here is mostly a separate thing. The only important part of it for Lamia culture is "Some Dwarves got super pissed and started funding a proxy war", just better written than that of course. The war proper can be written about in its own doc. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [07-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway uhh, how about this Adamantine stuff. You got any weigh-in on that, Harpy? I'm thinking of it being one of the keys to Vietlamia's anti-dragon operations. [07-Oct-20 09:10 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhhh [07-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I know Mithril was said to be good for gun barrels [07-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not sure about adamantine [07-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, yuo never read that post. [07-Oct-20 09:11 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 One moment, [07-Oct-20 09:12 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/763614673332731904/unknown.png [07-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah that [07-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [07-Oct-20 09:17 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like those idea [07-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, let's consider how rare the shit ought'a be. Insanely rare? It's meant to be super super valuable and only found in proper quantities in Fankasia Asia. [07-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I would think gold rarity [07-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So, say the Vietlamia find a vein of this shit, they make an entire mine to get the stuff out of the ground. How much do they get? [07-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If not a bit rarer [07-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Nanana, shit's meant to be way more rare than gold. Dwarves are going to war for this shit, after all. [07-Oct-20 09:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Some, anyway. [07-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Twice gold rarity? [07-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Gold's rare but everybody's got it. [07-Oct-20 09:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ehh... Maybe. The idea is discovering it in Vietlamia is a huge windfall, but discovering it anywhere else is an insanely rare and unlikely thing. [07-Oct-20 09:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 And suffice to say, one does not go to war for something any ol' Kingdom has a literal room full of, necessarily. [07-Oct-20 09:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So that requires it to be quite rare. [07-Oct-20 09:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Idunno, that's my outlook on it. Y'think I'm going too hard on the rarity? [07-Oct-20 09:21 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Mmmmm [07-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I think it might be a good rarity [07-Oct-20 09:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Especially if it’s sacred [07-Oct-20 09:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Sacred to some. Dwarves generally, in a sense. The rarer or more valuable the metal is, the more they consider it spiritually important, though not in a quantifiable way probably.. [07-Oct-20 09:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Super important to the Lamia. Maybe not Sacred.. Maybe.. There's a creation myth for it too. That uh.. Ooh, [07-Oct-20 09:26 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The remains of the White Snake's skin sheds. Turned green from age and rot and yet still another gift of extreme importance from him. [07-Oct-20 09:27 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >mfw lamia just use it to make nice plows [07-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 That's probably what the first ones did. The Royal Groundsman of the King of Vietlamia [07-Oct-20 09:28 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the highest paid Groundsman in all of ||vietlamia|| [07-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :Jerry: [07-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Nigga had this weird hard rock, found it in the earth. Blacksmith told him it looked kinda like iron. Tried forging it, was an incredible bitch to forge. Farmer originally wanted some beautiful green hedge trimmers to compliment his natural snake-part pigment, but that proved to be too much of a bitch. [07-Oct-20 09:29 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So he got a plow instead. [07-Oct-20 09:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Dragon attack. Groundsman's storage building burnt to cinders. Everything in ruin or in a slag heap stuck to the rock block floor of the building [07-Oct-20 09:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 except that fuckin' plow. Good as new. Minus the burnt-off handles. [07-Oct-20 09:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This shouldn’t make me laugh as much as it did {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/763619442105122816/image0.jpg [07-Oct-20 09:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >mfw that mother fucking plow I hate is still fine {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/763619541048754176/image0.jpg [07-Oct-20 09:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 haha [07-Oct-20 09:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 "I JUST HAD IT INSURED AND IT'S STILL FUCKING GOOD? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE MONEY-SNAKES PAY OUT FOR DRAGON-LOSS CLAIMS???" [07-Oct-20 09:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I have consumed. Anyway, I'm thinking most Smiths aren't as good as Dwarf smiths, and Lamia are no exception to that, as a whole. [07-Oct-20 09:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Plus, maybe they don't know the magic to work the metal easily, like Dwarves and Elves have. [07-Oct-20 09:57 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The thing is, should the metal just be automatically immune to dragonfire and shit generally, or should that take a magical spell in of itself? [07-Oct-20 09:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’d think naturally it would be very resistant [07-Oct-20 09:57 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Which is why people want it in the first place [07-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And if you can put even more special stuff on it afterwords [07-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It makes it even better [07-Oct-20 09:58 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh, people want it in the first place for many reasons. It's just great material to make armor and blades out of for starters, and it's also super acceptable of Magical attunement. [07-Oct-20 09:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So a normal low-skill mage can maybe do some enchantment, if he tries hard, on some stuff, and the enchantment would be of certain power [07-Oct-20 09:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but for adamantine? Shit turns into A+ [07-Oct-20 09:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 and for a nigga who actually knows what the fuck he's doing and isn't low-skill? S rank, with only moderate difficulty. [07-Oct-20 10:00 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The thing is, I wanted to have the adamantine be used by certain niggas to literally walk through lava, and other things. So like, if it can survive dragon fire, why can it be worked and forged in the first place? [07-Oct-20 10:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Makes me feel that the shit is good to start, but that there's some magical or.. hell, maybe even some realistic process unique to adamantine, that allows it to from then on protect from dragon fire and lava and shit. [07-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >using the toughest spells on Adamantine [07-Oct-20 10:07 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >create a god weapon [07-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup, maybe. S'why shit's valuable. [07-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Y'ever play Runescape? [07-Oct-20 10:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 S'basically Rune, on f2p. [07-Oct-20 10:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or maybe it doesn't make enchantments easier, but can take many enchantments without the enchantments limiting eachother. [07-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [07-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [07-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 When you hack a Minecraft sword [07-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And have every enchantment activated at once [07-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Idunno which idea is more OP tbh. Enchantments that are better than what you can normally ever do, [07-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Even thought they should cancel each other out [07-Oct-20 10:19 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 or a thing htat takes many more enchantments than usual [07-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 ||wjy not both?|| [07-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, that feels even more OP. Every weapon IRL has downsides to it, ultimately. Making something truly godlike ends up making it bad. [07-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It's like... Superman vs Batman. [07-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Which one is more thrilling? [07-Oct-20 10:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The nigga who can never be harmed ever and can fly and has x-ray vision and super strength [07-Oct-20 10:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or the rich nigga who's really smart [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I mean [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 If there’s both [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The downside could be you would need someone really powerful to handle it all [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or else it could possibly kill you [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Drains you of mana [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, idunno if I like that either. What, a nigga needs to know magic to use a sword with a kill-counter enchantment? [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More like [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It slowly drains you [07-Oct-20 10:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or quickly [07-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >pussy nigga picks up sword >immediately screams and shrivels up [07-Oct-20 10:23 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh. Not a fan. I think we should probably leave magic vague generally. [07-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Cut the magic side of Adamantine down to "It's very naturally attuned with magic, and it's impervious to Dragon fire (with certain caveats)" [07-Oct-20 10:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 the author can decide what naturally attuned with magic means. {Reactions} [07-Oct-20 10:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How's the lore, uh, gathering going by the way. [07-Oct-20 10:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Ah, good thinking [07-Oct-20 10:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And [07-Oct-20 10:31 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 It’s going [07-Oct-20 10:31 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 orly [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Also I'm still stuck on that thing like [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 how could it be immune to dragon fire, but still be forged by a blacksmith? [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The answer is the dragon fire is magical and this thing resists dragonfire, specifically, as part of it's magical nature. {Reactions} [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I mean [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What if it is specifically dragon fire [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Just dragon fire [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That it is 100% immune to [07-Oct-20 10:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Buuuuttttt I also want it to be able to be made into booties so some Muhamad-Sandnigger-tier-Dwarf-Cult-Leader can think he can walk through lava while wearing them [07-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, that's what I mean. This ore, specifically, is immune to dragon's fire. [07-Oct-20 10:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 ah, yes, rightr. [07-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway. So, uh. How would that actually work for Lamia? [07-Oct-20 10:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Since their lower , uh, snake body can't actually be covered really. Or at least not armored by plate. [07-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It needs to be either bare or covered in something that will really stick to the ground *and* stick to the specific segments of the Lamia's body. [07-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 If it's loose like a sock they'll just constantly sit there not moving. [07-Oct-20 10:43 PM] Vape#6221 chainmail maybe? [07-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Vape#6221 idk [07-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Vape#6221 chainmail is preety flexible tbh [07-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Not flexible enough, and it wouldn't stick to the Lamia's underbelly like it needs. [07-Oct-20 10:44 PM] Vape#6221 hmmm [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Vape#6221 maybe they would just wear a bodyglove-y thing [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Vape#6221 like uh [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Like, something that isn't super super tight and sticks to their underbelly well is like.... Walking around on soap. There's no traction for them. [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They won't slide, but that's almost the problem, they couldn't really move. [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Vape#6221 fuck [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Vape#6221 uh [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Modern ones would, but how would traditional pre-konvergence ones do that? [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Vape#6221 i really don't know dude [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Vape#6221 maybe some armor plates scaled inbeetween eachother? [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Vape#6221 just like tracks [07-Oct-20 10:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 A cool aesthetic but it still won't work. [07-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Vape#6221 i mean [07-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Vape#6221 atleast for their underbelly [07-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Vape#6221 they could just put some hard leather on the backside of their tail-body-halves-idfk and keep the other one bare clean [07-Oct-20 10:46 PM] Vape#6221 since not many things slide in nature [07-Oct-20 10:47 PM] Vape#6221 you can't ***really*** armor a snake tbh [07-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Na, you can. [07-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Vape#6221 you can armor dogs, monkeys, humans, bears, etc etc p good because of the joint parts being able to be kept flexible while immobile ones don't move much [07-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Vape#6221 even birds [07-Oct-20 10:48 PM] Vape#6221 but you keep their wings without armor [07-Oct-20 10:49 PM] Vape#6221 hm, leather gives a preety good traction though [07-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, that's the thing. The way snakes work, I think it won't. [07-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 For instance if you put a snake on a mirror, it can't move. [07-Oct-20 10:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 At least, not in it's usual way. It can flop and move that way, but not move via it's normal slithering type motion [07-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Vape#6221 maybe some kind of lizardskin? [07-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Vape#6221 that way it has enough traction to do shiit [07-Oct-20 10:51 PM] Vape#6221 since it's a bunch of scales literally ***digging*** [07-Oct-20 10:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, the issue is still that it must be tight on the snake's body too. It can kind of be done but not really. Like.. You know how when you walk, your foot changes it's angle? Imagine walking like a robot with a fully-stiff foot. That's what moving in underbelly-armor would be like to a Lamia, even if it was well done pre-konvergence armor, I fear. [07-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Vape#6221 they could just... not wear stuff on their underbellies? [07-Oct-20 10:54 PM] Vape#6221 just like a cape, armoured and all, just protecting their back and front half but keeping the rest bare [07-Oct-20 10:55 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. That was my idea as well. [07-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Armor on the top of the snake parts, armor all over the human parts, armor at the very front of the snake part that acts as the snake's "legs" [07-Oct-20 10:56 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Battlebrothermichael Y'got any armor ideas yourself, considering the above issues? [08-Oct-20 12:06 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Oh shit I forgot about that.. Hey Harpy, Lamia marriage. We talked about how disapproving parents may refuse to sponsor a proper wedding between a match they dislike. How would that actually work? What do the parents/elders have to work with in that regard? [08-Oct-20 01:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 For armor [08-Oct-20 01:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe Kevlar [08-Oct-20 01:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 With cleats on it [08-Oct-20 01:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Like [08-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Gripping grooves that dig into dirt and stuff [08-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Or rubber for traction [08-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That would work for lamia body armor [08-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Uhhh [08-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Disapproving Marriage wise [08-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe they don’t get a spot I. The lamia house [08-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 No funding [08-Oct-20 01:49 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 No place to do the ceremony [08-Oct-20 01:50 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Instead of having the marriage on the ancestral lands they have to have it in a communal place [08-Oct-20 06:45 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ah, no, I meant traditional armor for them, pre konvergence, pre rubber, etc [08-Oct-20 06:58 AM] Coastie#3790 I don't know if it's been said yet. Desert snakes don't slither, they walk. Lamia might have to do that for some situations. [08-Oct-20 01:04 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 Anyone got that pic of Miia wearing Jaffa armor from Stargate? [08-Oct-20 01:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 yes {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/763854730111090688/1600521465565-86178681.png [08-Oct-20 01:07 PM] Wargunlock#0868 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/763855201278623794/1583690659079.jpg [08-Oct-20 01:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Sneks pre and post Konvergance [08-Oct-20 01:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 This says a lot about society [08-Oct-20 01:16 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Also @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit for pre Konvergence armor maybe chain mail with cleats on it, something that grips [08-Oct-20 01:16 PM] Kachel#6608 Wargun has fallen... [08-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, we talked about about that 'some. Snake underbellies are tricky. Like uhh... [08-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Basically they can be armored all over *but* in doing so that will make htem have to move around like retards [08-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 which might be fine for dragon slaying since protection is paramount [08-Oct-20 01:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 but not for general use or wear I imagine. [08-Oct-20 01:18 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Historically any time there was a piece of armor that was protective, BUT limited the user's fighting or moving abilities majorly, it was tossed aside. [08-Oct-20 01:18 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Forgive me milkman, for I love boobies [08-Oct-20 01:18 PM] mothman#1742 i like that pic of mia with the monster bikini [08-Oct-20 01:18 PM] mothman#1742 booba [08-Oct-20 01:18 PM] mothman#1742 :booba: [08-Oct-20 01:19 PM] Kachel#6608 :POT: [08-Oct-20 01:19 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I like the idea of seeing a Lamia spin around like a sidewinder while in full plate [08-Oct-20 01:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 post sidewinder examples pls. [08-Oct-20 01:20 PM] mothman#1742 TORPEDO DRILL SNAKE MODE ENGAGED [08-Oct-20 01:20 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 https://m.imgur.com/PxiZeuU {Embed} https://imgur.com/PxiZeuU Sidewinder snake in the desert https://i.imgur.com/PxiZeuUh.jpg [08-Oct-20 01:21 PM] Kachel#6608 @Battlebrothermichael I am available in a few minutes to talk about floating islands lore. [08-Oct-20 01:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yes, something like that. [08-Oct-20 01:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Incidentally, [08-Oct-20 01:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 that's, technically, the most cost efficient snake movement style. [08-Oct-20 01:21 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The traditional one turns out to be less efficient than everyone used to think [08-Oct-20 01:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 @Kachel I’m in Math for the next hour sadly [08-Oct-20 01:22 PM] Kachel#6608 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [08-Oct-20 01:22 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/763858882082635786/image0.jpg [08-Oct-20 01:22 PM] Kachel#6608 I'm available until 3am CEST at least. [08-Oct-20 01:22 PM] Kachel#6608 So if you have time then let me know. [08-Oct-20 01:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oh hell yeah [08-Oct-20 01:23 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I’ll definitely have time before then [08-Oct-20 01:23 PM] Kachel#6608 Great [08-Oct-20 01:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 @Kachel Want to talk with me about flying island shit in the mean time? [08-Oct-20 01:24 PM] Kachel#6608 Sure, I'm still taking a shit but I'll join vc soon. [08-Oct-20 01:37 PM] Infinitevegetals#7795 Man sidewinders are cool [08-Oct-20 01:37 PM] Infinitevegetals#7795 They can move fast as fuck too [08-Oct-20 01:42 PM] TruFear#0540 >sidewinder lamias moving from cover to cover at incredibly high speeds [08-Oct-20 01:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Imagine the sound [08-Oct-20 01:43 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 *slam slam slam* [08-Oct-20 01:43 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Cute [08-Oct-20 03:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 (pinned) Results of our voice conversation: Lamia anti-dragon niggas wear a long dragon-leather thing on their snake parts + adamantine chainmail which mostly nullifies the dragon fire, and adamantine plate armor for the human segment that completely nullifies the dragon fire. Wearing shit all the way around their snake parts makes it very hard for them to slither normally, so they're required to either move either very very slowly, or via a sidewinder movement which involves throwing hteir snake parts around, which is both uncomfortable for them, strenuous, and very loud. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [10-Oct-20 03:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine with Lamia's gigantic food intake requirements, they dont really do deep-ocean voyage shit pre-konvergence. Without the land right next to them they're kinda fucked. [10-Oct-20 03:50 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 When theyre just coastal-sailing its prolly aiight since they can get food off land *and* do some fishing, but deep ocean shit isn't at all consistent for fishing. [10-Oct-20 04:45 PM] MandoSpam#7812 I wonder if somebody should commission a lamia with the latest bass pro shop gear. [10-Oct-20 06:30 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Oohhh [10-Oct-20 06:30 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hell yeah [10-Oct-20 07:32 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia *do* enjoy fishing. [10-Oct-20 07:33 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I wonder how many calories are in a big ol' fish. [10-Oct-20 07:54 PM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Fish had surprisingly few calories XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [11-Oct-20 01:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could see the Lamia getting most of their news pre-konvergence via foreign traders. That's a given usually,but especially for Lamia. That, and the Lodge niggas. The King prolly has two niggas called the King's Listener and the King's Speaker. Niggas' make it an official thing to talk to a trusted captain or ither member of the crew they trust and learn what they can. Prolly pay'm in SnakeCoin for the service, and is a customary thing the bigger merchant groups view as just another weird part of doing business with the Lamia. [11-Oct-20 01:20 PM] Wargunlock#0868 The Lamias, and most of the other races, will probably do their very best to seek out knowledge of these new humans at whatever cost. In my story the elves captured scribe because he could provide them information of these newcomers. Would the Lamias reach out to the insular hunter lodges that might have knowledge of what the new humans are like? Because of their nature, they wouldn't be inclined to ever divulge it if there wasn't any reason to do so, now however? With the Lamias asking for it and practically giving out a credibility boost? Yeah of course they are going to tell them what they want within reason. [11-Oct-20 01:21 PM] Wargunlock#0868 We need more lodge niggas. [11-Oct-20 02:18 PM] [NoNameGiven]#3446 not to rip off more from the monster girl stuff (I swear, I've never watched any of the shit so I might not be ripping them off idk), but what if they took advantage of those with more niche interests in the tidal wave of kommandos by having female lamias lure and kidnap some for some more rudimentary knowledge ? [11-Oct-20 02:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, Lamia are huge on personal freedoms, absolutely huge on it. Holding others against their will is something they ain't cool with doing. Lureing in generally though, sure. [11-Oct-20 02:21 PM] [NoNameGiven]#3446 they don't have to torture someone and the "kidnapping" could be something other than knocking them out / bag over the head, maybe more convincing a kommando to go with them ||so yeah more luring and less kidnapping|| [11-Oct-20 02:41 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Rural Lamias aren't very good at prostrating themselves. At least not the ones in charge. They're used to merchants having to convince *them* to do business, or government officials in some cases asking for shit or cooperation. [11-Oct-20 02:42 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I could see the merchant class or the King's officials doing so sufficiently. [11-Oct-20 02:43 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 I like Cas's idea [11-Oct-20 02:44 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 because let's be honest, a lamia lady comes up and does a belly dance any red-blooded american /k/ommando'll be on that snussy within a week [11-Oct-20 02:44 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 the merchants, I can see [11-Oct-20 02:45 PM] [NoNameGiven]#3446 but them not wanting to do such things is a point [11-Oct-20 02:45 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They might find human merchants frustrating since they would value food to a lesser extent. Every productive hour of work a Lamia does has to net them a certain amount of food. Humans need something like 1/8th of that quantity. So deals involving food wouldn't be nearly as appealing as they would to Lamia merchants. [11-Oct-20 02:45 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 it's not kidnapping if you get them to willingly come though it's just good advertising [11-Oct-20 02:45 PM] [NoNameGiven]#3446 maybe the king's officials find volunteers and train them for that? [11-Oct-20 02:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Na na. Lamia belly dances are based and maybe Rural Lamia estates looking for info from the horse's mouth might do it. [11-Oct-20 02:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 The problem is they're very suspicious of outsiders and non-family. [11-Oct-20 02:47 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So.. One way it might work is if they feel like they're locking the humans into being truthful via, say, ||Marriage.|| [11-Oct-20 02:49 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 yes, or by fair payment in currency [11-Oct-20 02:49 PM] Cactus Steve#8273 no one's jewing anyone [11-Oct-20 02:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or contracts, maybe... Mutually beneficial deals. If a Lamia has no prior reason to trust a nigga, he'll have to default to the very distant second of trusting his self interest.. [11-Oct-20 02:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Eh, no [11-Oct-20 02:49 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Once he has gold he can be gone in 5 minutes. [11-Oct-20 02:51 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Fucking niggercord ate my message holy shit [11-Oct-20 02:53 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Anyway, Lamia are very suspicious and would doubt much of what they're told by an unknown out of principle. Without a trusted third party, or some concrete reason to actively trust the source, they'd have major doubts. [11-Oct-20 02:54 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 So simply paying the person doesn't do much. [11-Oct-20 02:59 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 One option I suppose would be like.. They'll pay him for info, but only after X years, and not pay him shit if it turns out he lied. Most people wouldn't wanna take that deal though. [11-Oct-20 03:02 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Evsn in that, the Lamia would be suspicious until either the info was confirmed somehow, or backed up by someone they trust. [11-Oct-20 03:03 PM] GranadaWasNotEnough#5424 perhaps they size of a transaction is proportional to how long you've been doing business [11-Oct-20 03:03 PM] GranadaWasNotEnough#5424 regular exchange of material goods or money on site [11-Oct-20 03:03 PM] mothman#1742 i like this lore [11-Oct-20 03:03 PM] GranadaWasNotEnough#5424 no credit or tab [11-Oct-20 03:03 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. [11-Oct-20 03:04 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia keep dealings early on in mercantile relationships kinda small. A vetting period where if the merchant somehiw fucked them, it would only be a small setback. [11-Oct-20 03:05 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Last week or so we talked about how Lamia merchants doing new trade routes don't expect to even break even on their first two pass-throughs of an area [11-Oct-20 03:07 PM] mothman#1742 i could see lamia society working almost like a big extended family, if you arent a part of that, you're gonna have a hard time dealing with them [11-Oct-20 03:07 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Lamia are like boomers in that their trust is very long lasting and deep, and originally hard earned. So they'll buy rhe same thing for more from a trusted merchant rather than one they don't know. [11-Oct-20 03:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, more or less. Lots of vouching for people. Last week we talked about how the Lamia Royal court sends it's officials out to all the Lamia estates at least a few times in said officials' lives, just to make sure the people know the official's face and the line of trust never breaks by an untimely death [11-Oct-20 03:09 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 They trust a known face much much more than a badge. [11-Oct-20 03:16 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Important Lamia meetings between strangers always have gift giving from the parties interested in fostering the relationship. Often times that's a one sided thing, sometimes it's from both sides. Like if two new estates were being built not far from eachother. Both parties have an active need to foster good will in their neighbors, both sides know for a fact that the other is really a proper estate and this isnt somehow a big scam, etc. [11-Oct-20 03:17 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 You can't buy Lamia friendship, but goods, money, or favors are often necessary for it to go smoothly. Especially if the other party contrives any reason to doubt you. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [12-Oct-20 02:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >white snake should be involved He goes around asia on occasion to fuck up shit, sometimes for his Lamia's benefit, sometimes for fun. Could be the lodges secured his help once or twice. [12-Oct-20 02:46 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 He's strong, but not unkillable, and by no means allmighty, so it's not like he just nods his head and every dragon within 50 miles explodes XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [12-Oct-20 03:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Hmmm... Maybe White Snake joined with a bunch of humans going into the jungles, for a lil' fun. His Lamia's kingdom was especially peaceful at the moment and he felt like having a bit of fun before going back to sleep. Oooorrrrr maybe he lost a bar bet after doing a few bar bets with human visitors, and had to go with them. Maybe they fought a dragon ultimately, won, WhiteSnake was pleased by this random turn of events, so he healed them, maybe made the femmoids orbs a lil bigger, and used magic to clear a large patch of jungle for them, where the pest jungle plants would never grow again. It wasn't exactly, officially, his to give, but he did anyway. He took the Dragon's heart but left them the corpse, went back to Vietlamia and gave the heart to the King as a parting gift, and took another 200 year nap. [12-Oct-20 03:15 PM] mothman#1742 its sprawling, but not high tech [12-Oct-20 03:15 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Had to go afk 8 times while typing that I hope it came out ok because i didnt proof read it [12-Oct-20 03:16 PM] mothman#1742 @Wargunlock like this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/765337072109223996/latest.png [12-Oct-20 03:17 PM] mothman#1742 also need to do some stuff now so i'm getting off [12-Oct-20 03:18 PM] Wargunlock#0868 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628538581765324812/765337699816964106/Tower.png [12-Oct-20 03:18 PM] Wargunlock#0868 Kinda like the port city and the tower. [12-Oct-20 03:20 PM] Wargunlock#0868 I'd like to think that it was ancient, from a long dead civilization that the white snake merely informed the Humans of its existence and that if they wanted to hunt dragons that would serve as quite the base for them to take root in. [12-Oct-20 03:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Moffmans pic is p. Cool [12-Oct-20 03:20 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Very sand-y [12-Oct-20 03:24 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yeah, I was just thinkin'of that. WhiteSnake is probably intentionally aloof toward a lot of things. Wanting to do things during his waking hours but not wanting to grow too attached to anyone, since any way you cut it, it'd be bad long term. So WS might sometimes tell the truth, or may sometimes not. Or like, a lie of omission, often. Doesn't want them to fall victim of XYZ curse of some temple so he says he doesnt know about it. Or if hes talking to someone whomst knows hes a god, he just says the temple is from before he came to this region or some ither vague ass cryptic shit that they cant call him on, but can't make use of either. [12-Oct-20 03:25 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 I imagine in his snake form, his mouth doesn't move in a way human speech requires. Sk talking ti him would be like talking to the dragon in dragonball z [12-Oct-20 03:29 PM] Wargunlock#0868 That makes sense. [12-Oct-20 03:30 PM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 High intelligence and guile but not much wisdom. Ironically, somehqat Fonzi esque. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [13-Oct-20 12:30 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Just had a thought as I laid down for bed. Lamia move very consistently, and quite flatly, so they should be able to shoot while moving much easier than humans and most humanoids can. [13-Oct-20 12:35 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :itstime: [13-Oct-20 12:35 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Lamia could really be mobile gun bunkers [13-Oct-20 12:35 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 What do you think their stamina for upper body armor would be? [13-Oct-20 12:36 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Lamia with a .50 cal that is a living armored train [13-Oct-20 12:38 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >upper body armor Hmmm... Twice as strong, means half the load. Maybe more than half when you factor in the fact that while they're strong, thry can't move properly for combat if they use their carrying capacity to the fullest. [13-Oct-20 12:38 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Still, much higher than a human's capacity, I'd think. [13-Oct-20 12:44 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 30 percent bigger, 30 percent more armor. Twice as strong, twice the carry weight(within a certain range). With no legs to worry about, the torso armor for the lower body could just be a tube. Fairly strong structure. [13-Oct-20 12:44 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Hmmmm [13-Oct-20 12:44 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 So in theory [13-Oct-20 12:44 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 A regular EOD suit wouldn’t slow them down as much? [13-Oct-20 12:45 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 It'd fuck up aiming I'd imagine. They'd prolly hate it for any length of time because it puts a lotta weight on the snake-part that comprises their leg segment. [13-Oct-20 12:46 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But it would only hamper their movements slightly. [13-Oct-20 12:47 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Well, their travel movements, their arm movements might be half fucked from it. [13-Oct-20 12:47 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 >tfw Ned Kelley Lamia girl in loads of boiler plate with black powder guns [13-Oct-20 12:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 :itstime: [13-Oct-20 12:47 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Yes [13-Oct-20 12:48 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Sounds great [13-Oct-20 12:56 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 How would Lamoa fight pre konvergence? I've been stuck on the matter for a few days now. They're so long that if an enemy gets to the rear of the tail without beinf noticed, it could take kind of a while before the Lamia could get back to ots tail to defend it. [13-Oct-20 12:56 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Then again, the tail is thick and muscly and is sort of a weapon in if itself [13-Oct-20 12:56 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 In of* [13-Oct-20 12:57 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Can move away quick too I suppose. [13-Oct-20 12:57 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Tail slap if from behind [13-Oct-20 12:57 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 But I’d like to think they would prefer ambush tactics [13-Oct-20 12:58 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Not as much upfront fighting [13-Oct-20 12:58 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 But uh, with humans, theyre just a circle seen from a vertical position. They can defend most parts of themselves at any time. Lamia are, well, either logs or coils. [13-Oct-20 12:58 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Ambush for sure, or defense stuff. Tunnel defense and the like. [13-Oct-20 01:00 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Makes me wonder how much armor theyd really go with. And what formations for that matter. If flanking attacks would be a good counter to them or not [13-Oct-20 01:00 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Maybe less armor [13-Oct-20 01:00 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 More shields? [13-Oct-20 01:03 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Mmm, maybe. They've got a much better industry than their historic enemies, so it stands to reason theyd have a big advantage in quality armor. It's no meme that fully armored knights could wreck peasants easily, they were fuckin' tanks. [13-Oct-20 01:04 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 This isn't particularly important, but I'm very inclined with things like thisn in general to get this stuff right. [13-Oct-20 01:05 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Perhaps [13-Oct-20 01:06 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I was just more thinking about EOD suit lamias than their original armor [13-Oct-20 01:06 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 And how cool that would be [13-Oct-20 01:06 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Right, thats a much easier problem to solve. [13-Oct-20 01:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe the last 10 percent of their tail armor is hard and full coverage, since they can use it so well as a tripod {Reactions} itstime (2) [13-Oct-20 01:07 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Or, well... Monopod, I suppose [13-Oct-20 01:08 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Their underbelly needs to be either mostly unarmored or fully unarmored to really move well. Prolly kevlar panels draped across the snake's length [13-Oct-20 01:09 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 >Maybe the last 10 percent of their tail armor is hard and full coverage, since they can use it so well as a tripod @Fucking Kevin Goddamnit also as a wicked melee weapon [13-Oct-20 01:09 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Honestly [13-Oct-20 01:09 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 For the snake body length [13-Oct-20 01:09 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Kevlar panel drapes [13-Oct-20 01:10 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Yup. Though, for the prekonvergence niggas fighting dragons, I was thinking a sort of uhh.. [13-Oct-20 01:10 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Shingle kinda thing. [13-Oct-20 01:11 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 One plate on the right side, one plate on the left, and a cap-plate down the spine. These plates going to the ground or nearly so, to maximize fire protection. [13-Oct-20 01:12 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 That’s a good idea [13-Oct-20 01:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 I can imagine a lot of clanking [13-Oct-20 01:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 Plus [13-Oct-20 01:13 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 Maybe theyre trained so when they know fire's comin', they flatten a lil so the plates reslly do rest on the ground [13-Oct-20 01:13 AM] Battlebrothermichael#5958 The *S O C K* [13-Oct-20 01:13 AM] Fucking Kevin Goddamnit#4454 :unnerved: